Why not use the existing active community? : leftistinfighting@lemmy.ml

Why not use the existing active community? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 3 years ago by comfy@lemmy.ml to c/leftistinfighting@lemmy.ml

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This just seems redundant.

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[–] lugal@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago

I didn't get banned but I got downvoted for calmly explaining some basic principles of anarchism. I didn't say anything negative about Marxism but these people seem to know nothing about anarchism and don't even want to hear about it. This isn't Leftist Infighting but a safe space for tankies.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

Lemmygrad is actually a different server/instance of Lemmy, and it is run by actual tankies who ban anyone who's not a tankie. They do not allow any sort of disagreement or discussion. They exist purely to "dunk on libs".

I've been banned already from there. Their reasoning? "Being a lib" (forget that I'm literally a communist for a second, and you get the picture).

You can see my post there if you want. It's literally at the top of the list. I say fuck 'em.

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Their reasoning? “Being a lib”

You did had several wall of texts with explanation thrown at you. I would probably agree that banning you was too much, but note we currently are under attack by trolls from known liberal instances so mods are somewhat banhappy, and your stance don't help, you didn't even try to refute or discuss anything but just taken offense and now are here with complains.

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[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

I got banned before I was allowed to discuss anything there.

And the actual ban message was "liberal", I shit you not:

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

You did came back on another account and said:

This don't look like discussion attempt. Also i did seen your comments in other threads, you think taking potshots at "tankies" in the company of libs doing the same will get you much benefit of a doubt in Lemmygrad?

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[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

I actually was trying to figure out how Lemmy works, so I had a lemmygrad account, and a lemmy.ml account. I believe I posted the original using my lemmy.ml account and then when I was logged in to my lemmygrad account I posted the comment you screenshotted there.

That comment was in reply to them thinking I was someone else that must have been a problem in the past. And it's also me venting a bit about how tankies typically don't want to discuss anything, they just want to call you names and boot you. I realized after the first few walls of text came in that there was not going to be any discussion to be had in that thread.

Anyway, I'm so frustrated by the lack of sense of humor that tankies have. As a "lib" it's funny to me that they won't just own the "tankie" epithet and embrace it. The denial and defensiveness is what's frustrating and hilarious to me.

I'm not "taking potshots" at tankies. Tankies know where they stand with me. They just don't seem to have any sense of humor about anything other than "dunking on libs".

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

First, i'm not accusing you of ban evasion, i too have two accounts for the same reason that i had no clue about federation at first, i just saying you should use it in better way than to throw passive-aggressive comment showing everyone you don't really want to discuss, no wonder you get called lib when behaving exactly like lib. You should write to admins to appeal the ban you think is unjust, but it seems you make a second post about it on lemmy.

And it’s also me venting a bit about how tankies typically don’t want to discuss anything, they just want to call you names and boot you. I realized after the first few walls of text came in that there was not going to be any discussion to be had in that thread.

That's blatantly untrue, as seen a lot of time, but ok. Maybe clearly implying we are "genocide supporters" as every other lib in your first post was not a good start of discussion.

by the lack of sense of humor that tankies have.

Are you just tripling down with "it was a joke"? There is nothing even remotely resembling humour in that thread from you.

I’m not “taking potshots” at tankies. Tankies know where they stand with me. They just don’t seem to have any sense of humor about anything other than “dunking on libs”.

Bruh

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[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

throw passive-aggressive comment showing everyone you don’t really want to discuss

I literally made the post on LemmyGrad precisely BECAUSE I DO want to discuss this stuff. I literally created this community on Lemmy precisely BECAUSE I want to discuss this stuff.

You should write to admins to appeal the ban

I've had too much experience with tankies elsewhere to be as naive as to think they would ever reverse a ban on someone they considered a "lib".

That’s blatantly untrue

I've never had any luck with any sort of reasoned discussion with tankies. It always just devolves into them calling me a "lib" and telling me to "go read".

*edit: Or them rage-quitting, like you seem to have done in this thread. Thanks for proving my point, by the way. :)

Maybe clearly implying we are “genocide supporters”

See, why do you guys keep trying to deny it? You keep trying to justify mass-murder as "merely classicide" and therefore that makes it "justified" somehow.

Are you just tripling down with “it was a joke”?

No, what I'm saying is that tankies take offense at being called tankies, and it's pathetic. Why not just own it? Why not laugh and call yourselves tankies? Why not take the power back? Why not enjoy yourselves NOT at the expense of others? Are you capable of that?

Bruh

Bruh what? The only humor I ever see in tankie forums is dunking on libs. Point me to where they dunk on nazis. Point me to where they dunk on Republicans. I'll wait.

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

I literally made the post on LemmyGrad precisely BECAUSE I DO want to discuss this stuff. I literally created this community on Lemmy precisely BECAUSE I want to discuss this stuff.

Yet you didn't, you dropped a boring liberal accusation and then got butthurt which you continue to this moment, throwing even more insults in every post. Good luck trying to discuss anything like that, with clearly bad faith, which FYI is the first and surest thing you will get instaban in every marxist space. If you don't believe go to a place even like the deprogram sub which is aimed at deprogramming libs and try there with your "hey genocide deniers, how it's going!" "humour". I guess your new liberal pals with whom you coincidentally agree all the time will be better company for you.

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[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

you dropped a boring liberal accusation and then got butthurt

No, I got banned. There's a difference.

throwing even more insults in every post

Where have I insulted you? Also, I specifically built this DIFFERENT community so that we could banter and not get butthurt like you seem to be doing with your accusations of me "insulting" you.

clearly bad faith

I'm not sure what your definition of "bad faith" is, but clearly you're misinterpreting all of my comments and posts. I'm the only one in this particular conversation who wants to talk about the subject rather than lob ad-hominem attacks.

go to a place even like the deprogram sub which is aimed at deprogramming libs

LOL.. funny you should mention that...

They have ZERO interest in "deprogramming libs". They just want to continue to "dunk on libs" and that's all they care about.

“hey genocide deniers, how it’s going!”

You guys literally endorse mass-murder and aren't willing to discuss any alternatives.

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

I see now that that ban was fully deserved.

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[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

...how? Let's discuss!

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Very funny.

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[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

Oh look, you do have a sense of humor!

But it's actually not a joke. I would LOVE to discuss this with you. Honestly. That's literally what being in "good faith" is.

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Well you finally wrote something funny, so here you have. Outside of ban, where i said what i wanted to say, what would you like to discuss?

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[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago

I'd like to discuss why tankies are so offended at being called tankies, for one thing. I think it's a cute name.

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