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[–] 139 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The optimist in me says they're doing this to avoid piracy.

The pessimist in me says they're doing this so they can purge books because of the Trump administration.

Either way, I can't say I'm a fan.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The optimist in me says they’re doing this to avoid piracy.

    Won’t pirates just buy their source copies on a different platform, so now Amazon loses the original sale as well?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    The "original sale" in that case is not even pennies. So... not sure why amazon would care?

    Also: Many smaller authors basically depend on kindle because of the ease of use of the web portal and incentives to do larger discounts for their audiences. One of my favorite guilty pleasures has talked about exactly this (although he IS investigating alternatives).

    And, much like with video games: The Sandersons of the world will be pirated. MAYBE a Dalglish will be too. But nobody cares enough to go after a Samphire or Shel.

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  • [–] 100 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Reminder that piracy is a service issue.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    100%. I have always pirated, but the amount of things I pirated went way, way down when Netflix had a decent library of things to watch and was affordably priced.

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    [–] 89 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    Absurd. Glad I have a Kobo.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago

    Yep. Not to gloat, but I never touched Amazon's ebook marketplace.

    My current e-reader is a second-hand Kindle that has a permanent message asking if I would just please connect to a WiFi network just one time just for a moment PLEEEEEASE.

    I get my books from libgen, Gutenberg, or Kobo, and keep them on my computer. They're organized in Calibre, and I transfer them over on a USB cable.

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    [–] 34 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    That's why I avoided Kindle and picked a Kobo. Sure you can remove DRMs from the books you've bought. But at some point they could block you from doing that. They can change anything at anytime and there's nothing you can do about it.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    That is no different than Kobo. Thus far, Rakuten have been pretty good about not caring more than the bare minimum. But there is nothing stopping them from doing the same bullshit with firmware updates to the kobos and drm updates to the store and apps.

    I am finally migrating from kindle to kobo (tried kindle to boox last year and it was bad...) but I am under no illusions that I am just hoping one company is better than another. I mean, the other is Amazon so it is a pretty safe bet. But still.

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    [–] 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Ugh, thanks for the warning. Time for me to download and de-drm all my old kindle books and never again buy anymore.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    This is why you never connect your kindle to the internet. Calibre forever

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Do yourself a favour, switch to Kobo or a third party ereader... Especially if you're not in the US.

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    [–] 28 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    I sure am glad I got a Kobo for myself for Xmas and ripped all my books to it. Guess I'll be recycling my Kindle for good.

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Its possible to buy DRM free ebooks from itch.io and it is where I get everything that I can.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    Adding on to this that Barnes and Noble sells DRMed ePUB files that are relatively easy to strip DRM from using Calibre.

    So if you can't find a book anywhere else, at least they don't use a proprietary format and still allow you to download your books using their PC software.

    I was a semi-early adopter in the ebook space and I have refused to get onboard with the kindle ecosystem from the start. There's no reason for their proprietary format other than complete control over things they pretend to sell you. Amazon is also the Walmart of books and uses their position to browbeat publishers and authors into taking smaller cuts of sales.

    One of my friends got a book published and I waited and waited for it to be available anywhere else. Eventually just bought what was probably a print on demand copy from Amazon because that's the only place his publisher sold books. I never buy physical books anymore but I'd rather do that than buy a kindle book.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    resist.

    Stop buying whatever it is that Amazon/Meta/Google/Etc sell. They will not stand for you. They will not respect you.

    At some points, it may seem like they changed and that they are now good. They are not. They will never be. Resist them.

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  • [+] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    You know I am starting to think going to the library is a better idea than buying their products. You can literally just walk in.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    That's why I don't download or purchase ebooks from Amazon, but only get them from places I can download a non-DRM'd copy. I'm not looking to break any laws, but if I pay for it, I want to be able to have it whenever I want even when the Internet is down. Recently a buddy gave me his old blu-ray juke box, and now I'm doing the same thing with my favorite movies as well. And building a home lab. It's finally time I decreased (not completely ended) my reliance on the cloud, given the shit show my nation collectively voted for.

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    [–] 16 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    The only surprising thing about this is that the functionality existed in the first place.

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    [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    I'm glad I started converting all my amazon books long ago. When I finally got a Kobo last month, there were no issues since the work was done.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    Knew this would happen

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    If only there were some way to get books to read in a format where a billionaire's trillion dollar company can't gatekeep them.

    Some sort of physical product, perhaps one made out of trees?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    I recommend actually listening to some authors.

    The "gatekeeping" back in the days before ebooks was infinitely worse than it is now. These days? Basically anyone who can fill out a webform can publish a kindle book. And other stores aren't much harder. And those ebooks can be sold indefinitely.

    Contrast that with needing to find a publisher who is willing to allocate some of their limited production time to you. And then hope that Borders et al are willing to put you on the shelf. And then realize that you are never getting another penny for that book because the first MMPB run ran out and you aren't getting a second because you didn't sell enough to justify it.

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I rarely use my Paperwhite Signature since I like my Boox Nova 2 more. The Kindle is mostly just for the serial now to strip DRM via Calibre.

    My wife recently joked that it’s my “Kindle Paperweight.” With this announcement it’s no longer a joke. I doubt I’ll buy anymore books from Amazon.

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    I read somwhere how to solve this

    1 - factory reset

    2 - deactivate wifi for life

    3 - upload books with calibre

    This will wipe out any content you have, as i understand

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Makes it harder to pirate or share, so more profit with the benefit of censorship. They could make updates to material on the fly if they wanted. Assuming you need an Internet connection, no privacy and limits where you can read. It's hard because you can't avoid things like AWS but you can stop paying them directly. Sadly, even now, it's hard to convince people to give up on Amazon and similar corps.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    I'm quite glad that I never bought fully into Kindle/Nook/Kobo and instead went with an eInk Android tablet.

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Good news is that there are alternative ways to download these books from Amazon for backup purposes. It’s not as straightforward but it’s doable.

    That said I will be refusing to buy from any storefront that doesn’t offer a way to download my books. Even adobe digital editions is a viable alternative.

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Definitely switch to alternatives from Amazon. They treat their authors abhorrently too. I've personally been super happy with libro.fm for Audiobooks (essentially Audible, but you can download the audiobooks DRM-free)

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The article literally says you will still be able to push books via Calibre etc, but won't be able to download books into Kindle from PC.

    Example: If you don't have a WiFi at home, there is an option to connect Kindle via USB to your ethernet connected PC and download books from Amazon that way.

    And this option is going away, as most people have WiFi.

    Anywho, fuck Amazon (for other things, but not this one).

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    I’m guessing audible will follow soon after.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago*

    Crap, I've had a Kindle for years, I'm still pissed at them over Dash buttons - instead of just stopping support they changed their setup site so it would bricked them. I still have half a dozen uninitialized ones I can never use now. Fuck you, Bezos, and the giant stick up your ass you rode in on.

    Have to check if this means I can only read while online now, or if I can just turn off networking and keep the books I already have.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    I'm actually suprised Google never went and made an reader they already have the store and software. Kobo does the job for me anyway though.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Can I root my 10 year old Kindle Paperwhite?

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    Thanks for the heads-up. I'm downloading all of mine and finally making a Calibre library.

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