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[–] 49 points 2 years ago
[–] 34 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Glad I use GrapheneOS and don't use any Google apps or services anymore it's amazing how I no longer get spam calls and texts since the switch.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I de-google everything I can.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Same but I think it will soon not be enough. I still cant believe it's now so difficult to not be a google product, this is a digital nightmare built by decades of unregulated capitalism. Kiss my ass GAFAM.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    I mean, nothing is forcing anyone to use any specific product, and there are certainly smartphones with neither Android or iOS.

    Personally, at some point I will switch from iPhone to an Android device that can work with something independent like /e/ or one of the other decent ones.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    De-googling is not enough, there must be nothing to de-Google from the start.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That’s one approach but far more limited than just using a Google-free Android build like Lineage.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I know, that's why I advocate for going Google free from the outset.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well, it may be ideal, but that is not the same as absolutely necessary.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Different threat models have different necessities. I believe a regular user should avoid Google ( or rather all of GAFAMBATX) connections at all costs. I think everybody (me included, of course) is better off with a dumbphone than a Degoogled phone.

    It's obvious we have different opinions, I respect your right to run any system as you want. I don't think I have any more to contribute to this topic.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Yeah I’m not really disagreeing with you it’s just I don’t run anything that’s as privacy-necessary as you. My actual phone is iPhone and all the Android stuff I experiment with are lab systems for tinkering, rom mod testing etc. If I had anything that was being used for any really private or sensitive data, hell yes I would use something completely detached from anything google.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Don't you have issues with banking apps then? It's the one thing holding me back from switching, but I haven't really done a deep dive in it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Its a common misconception that banking apps don't work on grapheneOS.

    In some cases there is a feature call "expliot protection compatibility mode" that you have to enable, but the OS does it automatically for most banking apps.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And yet they still probably won't allow any third party app to have access to RCS via an API. FFS.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Wish the EU would start a lawsuit against them for that. It is blatantly anti-competitive and responsible for the death of so many messaging apps.

    But I guess the EU is content with non-interoperable Whatsapp harvesting and gatekeeping the personal communication of almost every citizen. Even worse than Google Messages IMO.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sounds like a potential security hole. Hopefully there will be a way to fully disable it in the OS.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    So it will finally be able to do what "OK Google" should have been able to do from the beginning?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    And then people wonder why everyone is sitting on old Android versions. πŸ˜‚

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    Not on my devices... Eff that

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Can't wait for it to completely mangle all my alarms. Google assistants already tell me "you don't have a list called grocery" when I ask if bread is on it, but is happy to add it to the list again when I tell it to.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    That's the whole point. Google assistant sucks because it only understands commands, and doesn't understand natural language. This is Google's attempt at making a truly great assistant, as they always envisioned it to be. Personally, I am very excited as there is a lot of potential in the technology. It would be a shame if they don't execute well on it.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Might be an unpopular opinion but, this sounds really exciting to me. I hate fidgeting with my phone and always have been super interested in a true AI type assistant type thing.

    It's a shame no one should ever trust this, regardless of what company makes it.

    Oh what the world could be.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yo fax too many people just hate ai for the hell of it, I just hate the folks who happen to be in control of all the cool ai tech. Imagine if... Openai was actually FOSS ai??!?!😳

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    If it was able to do that without phoning home I'd definitely dive it a try

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Gemini would be only a system app right? Then I should be able to disable it too right? This is something Google app on your device already does I believe.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Impressive at the same time it's a bit too scary

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Dragon Ball Z has made tech headlines more interesting.

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