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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really wish more online personalities would move to Mastodon, right now it's hard to justify when most of what I use Twitter for is to follow different online creators and such. And just none of them are moving over yet. It looks like Bluesky is where a lot of them are looking. It's also decentralized, but honestly I'm not a big fan of jumping on another Jack Dorsey project. I don't like ActivityPub as a tech myself and would be more interested in a holepunch kind of approach myself, but honestly it's the most mature decentralized tech there is right now and it seems like the world is moving that way. Just wish the world would move quicker!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s also decentralized, but honestly I’m not a big fan of jumping on another Jack Dorsey project

Jack Dorsey is the reason why some of these perennially online personalities moved to Bluesky. The AT protocol maybe decentralized but there's no unofficial instances of it yet (afaik).

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm on both, and both vibes are pretty great. I prefer Mastodon simply because the app is superbly made, tiny file size, no trackers etc. Bluesky is a buggy mess right now. Also, 3rd party apps on Mastodon are amazing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I wouldn't consider another VC money backed app/service anymore no matter how good the tech might be. I hope we all remember the hard lessons from the fiascos from the recent months.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

This brings up my main questions with mastodon and lemmy… who is going to pay the server costs at scale?

It would be nice if those mechanisms began sooner than later.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'm tossing $10 to both a month. Many of us are doing that to avoid being the product.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It will need to be by donation and/or sponsorship, systems for which are currently in place for most of the larger instances.

My hope is to see academia, web hosts, and non-profits involved at some point too. I think the software is just too immature at this early stage to expect much in this regard. Once more advanced safeguards are in place (content filters, admin tools, etc.), it may become more viable from a liability perspective.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Also, remember there are a bunch of nice 3rd party options for Android, like: Tusky (personal favorite), Fedilab, Megalodon, & Tooot

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I've been trying Tusky and Fedilab. They are better experiences for sure.

Just tried the new official app and it is much better than what it was before but the 3rd party offerings are still ahead as of now.

Just my 2 cents.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait Tusky is not the official app? I always assumed it was

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I've heard that the official app was initially thrown together at some point around the time Mastodon first blew up due to Twitter...uh, blowing up, in a different sense. Basically, "it would really help onboarding if people had an obvious choice of official app to use". At least, that's what I've heard. Never verified this myself.

Tusky is definitely decent though.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I tried to use mastodon but it never stuck for me. Mostly because of the lack of communities that I'm part of on twitter. Ever since musk's takeover, I've been using twitter less and less.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Same here. I love how fluid Mastodon's app is, especially compared to Lemmy's. But I scroll for a bit and there's nothing that interests me on my timeline.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one is going to feed you content. It's a different way to think and consume media. You just gotta start following people or hashtags and see which content and people are posting things that interest you. Go the the local feed of the instance of the world feed and watch things unfold.

But you gotta bootstrap it. There's a lot of interesting people and content in it.

There's a few sites that help with discovery by listing relevant people and topics.

There's hashtags important to follow at the start, for example #fediverseMigration where lots of posts trying to help new people and guiding them appear.

I know it may hurt a little at the beginning, but it's so worth it and rewarding. So, don't quit and give it a little bit to grow on you. It's a new experience so not everything will feel similar to what one knows previously.

And, the amazing thing that on mastodon one being able to directly interact and comment on lemmy posts is just mind-blowing.

So. Good luck. And Thanks for all the fish.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Seriously, follow hashtags! If friends start to join boost their early posts so other people can find them too. You take the place of the algorithm on Mastodon, so you're ultimately responsible for curating your experience.

Though I will say, don't use the offical app. It lacks a federated timeline still, which is weird. If you like that UI though, Moshidon is a fork that adds some customization and the federated timeline, which is a neat way to see what's goin on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Hit "Explore" and follow hash tags to grow your list of accounts to follow. It really helps a lot! Mine used to be like 2 minutes of scrolling and I'm done for the day. Now it's....um....I should get back to work.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One of Mastodon's upsides, the lack of an algorithm also hurts it, I find.

It's surprisingly difficult to find new and interesting users to follow, since they don't suggest anything, but at the same time, the only way to find users is seemingly to browse your local instance's users, which won't cover interesting things from other instances (unless they're specifically boosted).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Best thing for discovery in Mastodon is to follow hashtags. This is algorithm-like in that you will see posts from people you don't follow, on the topics you have an interest in.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Discoverability was largely the reason why I got in fights with Mastodon users over the platform being in a bad place when Twitter had its first wave of musk awfulness.

I find that the system is now much improved, but man, I can't stress out just how bad an impression I was given that everyone seemed to think searching posts by tags was a bad thing, and that tags in general were, in fact, objectively broken at the time. Like, people go on social media with purposes in mind.

It's fixed now. Tag activity is shown correctly. Tag history also gets shown correctly. You can also follow tags. That's all I wanted, and acknowledgement of it, not a philosophy discourse.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

First time I gave Mastadon a shot now. It's nice.

Special thanks to Kbin to introduce me into decentralized social media.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe I should give Mastodon another try.. I couldn't really find anyone to follow.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To get an immediate curated feed, I recommend following @[email protected]. She boosts all sorts of interesting stuff from others. It's a great way to find other accounts you might want to follow.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another good account to follow is @[email protected] (https://social.growyourown.services/@FediFollows) They highlight interesting accounts to follow.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That was my struggle too... I open it every once in a while, but it's the same people posting similar things.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Despite mastadon being more active, it seems less lively. I guess it's because I preferred Reddit over Twitter in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is also pretry similar to old.reddit. No recommendation or anything so its an easy migration.

I have only used Twitter and Mastodon sporadically, but its definitely more of a pain to discover communities since its more user oriented

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Longer form content is always more fun for me. Structured topics and conversations are way better to exchange ideas and shitposts.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm using Tusky for now. It has more customization options than the official app. One thing I don't like about the official app is that everything looks gigantic.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How good is Mastodon in general to follow football news? Transfer rumours and all?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Not there yet - but there are bot accounts that feed you their tweets. LOL Look up the accounts you have on Twitter for news and you'll most likely find a bot account for them on Mastodon. That's how I'm keeping up to date.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem with mastodon is everyone is on mastodon.social

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The update is really great. Enjoying it a lot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What's a good way of finding people to follow on Mastadon?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I search tags, and if someone posts something interesting under a tag I like, I'll check their page out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Like the other user said following tags is a great way to engage with things you choose. Along the way, you'll find people that you find interesting and then you can follow them directly. It's much less about seeking people and more letting them come to you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

No idea. I mainly follow tags lol

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I did open a Mastodon account. But don't use it much 😶

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mastodon app is great for people coming from Twitter but I love my Megalodon <3

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Mastodon seems to become yet another rage cage like twitter, first thing I saw when I opened it yesterday was people bitching about politics, that's a BIG nope for me

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

If you don't care about the world, don't follow people who do?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Thats a weird statement as you have a lot of options to change your feed and filter stuff out you don't like.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Like all social media, you have to curate it. I follow hashtags for cats, books, writing, fandoms, etc. The rage is minimum then because my homepage doesn't have politics or news. I actually do follow a couple of news sources, but their stuff is surrounded by an ocean of fun things so it's not nearly as bad.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think I'll ever make a Mastodon account, but I do like the rss feature so had been relying on that to get updates on certain projects. Now just need some Twitter accounts that haven't moved over to do the same. Some have websites, but don't even update it and relied solely on twitter to push update.

Twitter is mainly for self promotion than for users, so this seems pretty disruptive for them than it is for people like me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've found that my lemmy.world account can be followed by my mastodon.social account. I wonder if it is possible to log in to a mastodon client with it?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I tried a lot, but Toot! is the best of the bunch.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I couldn't find the button to follow hashtags on the official app, but it's there on Moshidon.

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