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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Please let this be the year that Florida finally sinks.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's not going to magically sink; parts of the state have enough elevation to remain above sea level even if we melt everything.

What might happen is that coastal properties become uninsurable, which will make it all but impossible to obtain loans or build new buildings.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Insurance companies are legally required to pretend climate change doesn't exist for purposes of calculations. I'm not even joking, that was DeSantis's "solution".

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Doesn't that just mean many insurance companies won't insure anything in the state and those that stay are going to be the most expensive options?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Probably. Never said the guy was particularly smart.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

It’s just dumb. Not only is it not fact-based policy, but it’s not like insurance companies don’t have power. I would imagine that fucking around with gigantic institutions like these is basically like signing a death sentence for a conservative political campaign.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is that the right link? It doesn’t mention climate change at all

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

It was the wrong link and I can't find the one that included DeSantis saying that the president of an insurance company that left the state was being influenced by climate scientists.

Here's one talking about how climate change has affected insurance in Florida, Louisiana, and California and how insurance is either running away from the exposure risk or pricing it in and causing rates to to skyrocket unless subsidized by the government

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I thought Florida was already uninsurable.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There's a high-cost state-run insurer of last resort (Citizens Property Insurance Corporation) which is still in operation. The right set of storms could break that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It won't even need a big set of storns. It will just need the constant slightly elevated and worsening conditions we've been seeing, with more frequent major events. A failure of attrition , literally and figuratively.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Then they might just be counting on FEMA and other federal aid to bail them out. They might even try holding themselves hostage at some point.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

If it’s anything like my state they are carrying way too many people and it’s just a ticking time bomb.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Let it take Bezos and Hannity, too! Please!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

How can we not?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He moved to Texas. I live in Texas. Can it at least wait until he’s out of state, that way I can continue my existence?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why not take care of Texas and Musk at the same time? Seems like more trouble to do them separately.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Well, just be sure to let all the non-GQP idiots know first so we can leave.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Mar a Lago is in FL, too. Wouldn't it just be the icing on the cake if Trump lost his precious golf club? Perhaps with him inside?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

Better get out the sharpie.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, irs all starting up for real this year, isn’t it :(

edit: in the sense of it’s been happening gradually, and now it’s going to happen all at once

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

my heart goes out to all the families and responders who will be impacted by this ♥️

hoping governments can act on this data and shore up funds in preparation to minimize the inevitable damage and to provide aid afterwards

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Time to pack up