▲ 36 ▼ EU moving towards total monetary surveillance and banning all anonymous payments (lemmy.ml) submitted 2 years ago by makeasnek@lemmy.ml to c/monero@monero.town 13 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/13481220 How to contact your MEP: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/portal/en/contact Source: https://snort.social/nevent1qqsvcedd6dg39eh6633uqqff0p9h2zqyhu3zd6kwyyhzqj7da02x4pszyqe2wpknmwkyd0t295d5ezvtaxr00ngxjtcfuct8pfvyec3snckpwqcyqqqqqqgz2f7lp
[–] mariob@liberdon.com 2 points 2 years ago (7 children) @lud @tusker by changing the governance. More specifically: decentralizing the governance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mariob@liberdon.com 2 points 2 years ago (5 children) @lud decentralizing the financial system is basically the first step. Then slowly you decentralize most of the social system components: education, sick care, transport, food chain etc. At the end you replace the political law with natural law. Everything will be based on rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mariob@liberdon.com 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) @lud decentralized governance doesn't mean there won't be any governance at all. There will still be policing, taxes and social services. The difference is that in governing process we will all participate, not only a herd of politicians which decide the fate of everyone else. Take example the Monero system. When there is a network upgrade it can be proposed by anyone on the forum and if everyone agrees it will get implemented. if there are disagreements they will be put on the table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mariob@liberdon.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) @lud We used to delegate power to a smaller group. Now the group is delegating itself. That's why today, you are calling it an establishment, and not a government. The only thing the "normal people" must do is participate in the decision making process. The implementation itself will be delegated to a smaller group indeed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mariob@liberdon.com 2 points 2 years ago (5 children) @lud decentralizing the financial system is basically the first step. Then slowly you decentralize most of the social system components: education, sick care, transport, food chain etc. At the end you replace the political law with natural law. Everything will be based on rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mariob@liberdon.com 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) @lud decentralized governance doesn't mean there won't be any governance at all. There will still be policing, taxes and social services. The difference is that in governing process we will all participate, not only a herd of politicians which decide the fate of everyone else. Take example the Monero system. When there is a network upgrade it can be proposed by anyone on the forum and if everyone agrees it will get implemented. if there are disagreements they will be put on the table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mariob@liberdon.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) @lud We used to delegate power to a smaller group. Now the group is delegating itself. That's why today, you are calling it an establishment, and not a government. The only thing the "normal people" must do is participate in the decision making process. The implementation itself will be delegated to a smaller group indeed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mariob@liberdon.com 2 points 2 years ago (5 children) @lud decentralizing the financial system is basically the first step. Then slowly you decentralize most of the social system components: education, sick care, transport, food chain etc. At the end you replace the political law with natural law. Everything will be based on rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mariob@liberdon.com 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) @lud decentralized governance doesn't mean there won't be any governance at all. There will still be policing, taxes and social services. The difference is that in governing process we will all participate, not only a herd of politicians which decide the fate of everyone else. Take example the Monero system. When there is a network upgrade it can be proposed by anyone on the forum and if everyone agrees it will get implemented. if there are disagreements they will be put on the table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mariob@liberdon.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) @lud We used to delegate power to a smaller group. Now the group is delegating itself. That's why today, you are calling it an establishment, and not a government. The only thing the "normal people" must do is participate in the decision making process. The implementation itself will be delegated to a smaller group indeed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] lud@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mariob@liberdon.com 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) @lud decentralized governance doesn't mean there won't be any governance at all. There will still be policing, taxes and social services. The difference is that in governing process we will all participate, not only a herd of politicians which decide the fate of everyone else. Take example the Monero system. When there is a network upgrade it can be proposed by anyone on the forum and if everyone agrees it will get implemented. if there are disagreements they will be put on the table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mariob@liberdon.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) @lud We used to delegate power to a smaller group. Now the group is delegating itself. That's why today, you are calling it an establishment, and not a government. The only thing the "normal people" must do is participate in the decision making process. The implementation itself will be delegated to a smaller group indeed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mariob@liberdon.com 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) @lud decentralized governance doesn't mean there won't be any governance at all. There will still be policing, taxes and social services. The difference is that in governing process we will all participate, not only a herd of politicians which decide the fate of everyone else. Take example the Monero system. When there is a network upgrade it can be proposed by anyone on the forum and if everyone agrees it will get implemented. if there are disagreements they will be put on the table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mariob@liberdon.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) @lud We used to delegate power to a smaller group. Now the group is delegating itself. That's why today, you are calling it an establishment, and not a government. The only thing the "normal people" must do is participate in the decision making process. The implementation itself will be delegated to a smaller group indeed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mariob@liberdon.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) @lud We used to delegate power to a smaller group. Now the group is delegating itself. That's why today, you are calling it an establishment, and not a government. The only thing the "normal people" must do is participate in the decision making process. The implementation itself will be delegated to a smaller group indeed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mariob@liberdon.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) @lud We used to delegate power to a smaller group. Now the group is delegating itself. That's why today, you are calling it an establishment, and not a government. The only thing the "normal people" must do is participate in the decision making process. The implementation itself will be delegated to a smaller group indeed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent