▲ 971 ▼ mice (mander.xyz) submitted 2 years ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to c/science_memes@mander.xyz 42 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 128 points 2 years ago (12 children) Graph break makes it look a lot closer than it is. permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] gregorum@lemm.ee 45 points 2 years ago OK, but still, that slug was on that exercise wheel way more than anyone would expect a slug to be on one of those things permalink fedilink source parent [–] casmael@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago (10 children) How so? I am but a peasant farmer and know little of the interpretation of graphs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] big_slap@lemmy.world 90 points 2 years ago (6 children) the graph for mice on the left has a break between .10 and .80. see the little squiggly thing? if that break was not there, the mice bar would be wayyyy higher than the other bars. I don't think it's meant to be misleading. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 years ago (4 children) I don't think it's meant to be misleading. Have to disagree. These particular researchers have a long history of pro-slug bias - at any cost. Where will it end? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] runeko@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wonder if they are being paid off by big slug. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Slimey bahstahds permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) As long as it leads to more representation for the shrew then it might be a good thing in the end permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago 🙏 permalink fedilink source parent [–] casmael@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago Oooooh shit yeah it really does make it look a little closer that it was! Still, nice to know the mice (and occasional frog etc) were having a nice time permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Seitler@startrek.website 16 points 2 years ago It looks to me as if 0.10 to 0.80 takes up as much vertical space as 0.01 to 0.02. They “yadda yadda‘d” the middle values because mouse was the only one that went that high. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago They chopped out the middle section of the chart, so slugs actually look 12x larger than they should. In fact, all the other bars are 12x larger than they actually should be v permalink fedilink source parent [–] Freeman@lemmings.world 6 points 2 years ago Every farmer queues his cows up in one line. So there are several lines of cows. Now one rich farmer owns a lot more cows than the other, poor farmers. Someone wants to make a photo from above and has a problem: Either the long lines of the rich guys cows wont fit in the picture or he has to zoom out so far that the short lines arent really visible anymore. So now if you leave out a bunch of cows from the long line and add a indicator, that there are left out cows. The numbers on the left make it that it still is correct and readable altho the longest line/bar is shorter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 45 points 2 years ago OK, but still, that slug was on that exercise wheel way more than anyone would expect a slug to be on one of those things permalink fedilink source parent
[–] casmael@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago (10 children) How so? I am but a peasant farmer and know little of the interpretation of graphs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] big_slap@lemmy.world 90 points 2 years ago (6 children) the graph for mice on the left has a break between .10 and .80. see the little squiggly thing? if that break was not there, the mice bar would be wayyyy higher than the other bars. I don't think it's meant to be misleading. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 years ago (4 children) I don't think it's meant to be misleading. Have to disagree. These particular researchers have a long history of pro-slug bias - at any cost. Where will it end? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] runeko@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wonder if they are being paid off by big slug. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Slimey bahstahds permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) As long as it leads to more representation for the shrew then it might be a good thing in the end permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago 🙏 permalink fedilink source parent [–] casmael@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago Oooooh shit yeah it really does make it look a little closer that it was! Still, nice to know the mice (and occasional frog etc) were having a nice time permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Seitler@startrek.website 16 points 2 years ago It looks to me as if 0.10 to 0.80 takes up as much vertical space as 0.01 to 0.02. They “yadda yadda‘d” the middle values because mouse was the only one that went that high. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago They chopped out the middle section of the chart, so slugs actually look 12x larger than they should. In fact, all the other bars are 12x larger than they actually should be v permalink fedilink source parent [–] Freeman@lemmings.world 6 points 2 years ago Every farmer queues his cows up in one line. So there are several lines of cows. Now one rich farmer owns a lot more cows than the other, poor farmers. Someone wants to make a photo from above and has a problem: Either the long lines of the rich guys cows wont fit in the picture or he has to zoom out so far that the short lines arent really visible anymore. So now if you leave out a bunch of cows from the long line and add a indicator, that there are left out cows. The numbers on the left make it that it still is correct and readable altho the longest line/bar is shorter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] big_slap@lemmy.world 90 points 2 years ago (6 children) the graph for mice on the left has a break between .10 and .80. see the little squiggly thing? if that break was not there, the mice bar would be wayyyy higher than the other bars. I don't think it's meant to be misleading. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 years ago (4 children) I don't think it's meant to be misleading. Have to disagree. These particular researchers have a long history of pro-slug bias - at any cost. Where will it end? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] runeko@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wonder if they are being paid off by big slug. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Slimey bahstahds permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) As long as it leads to more representation for the shrew then it might be a good thing in the end permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago 🙏 permalink fedilink source parent [–] casmael@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago Oooooh shit yeah it really does make it look a little closer that it was! Still, nice to know the mice (and occasional frog etc) were having a nice time permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 years ago (4 children) I don't think it's meant to be misleading. Have to disagree. These particular researchers have a long history of pro-slug bias - at any cost. Where will it end? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] runeko@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wonder if they are being paid off by big slug. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Slimey bahstahds permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) As long as it leads to more representation for the shrew then it might be a good thing in the end permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago 🙏 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] runeko@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wonder if they are being paid off by big slug. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Slimey bahstahds permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Slimey bahstahds permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) As long as it leads to more representation for the shrew then it might be a good thing in the end permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago 🙏 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] casmael@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago Oooooh shit yeah it really does make it look a little closer that it was! Still, nice to know the mice (and occasional frog etc) were having a nice time permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Seitler@startrek.website 16 points 2 years ago It looks to me as if 0.10 to 0.80 takes up as much vertical space as 0.01 to 0.02. They “yadda yadda‘d” the middle values because mouse was the only one that went that high. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago They chopped out the middle section of the chart, so slugs actually look 12x larger than they should. In fact, all the other bars are 12x larger than they actually should be v permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Freeman@lemmings.world 6 points 2 years ago Every farmer queues his cows up in one line. So there are several lines of cows. Now one rich farmer owns a lot more cows than the other, poor farmers. Someone wants to make a photo from above and has a problem: Either the long lines of the rich guys cows wont fit in the picture or he has to zoom out so far that the short lines arent really visible anymore. So now if you leave out a bunch of cows from the long line and add a indicator, that there are left out cows. The numbers on the left make it that it still is correct and readable altho the longest line/bar is shorter. permalink fedilink source parent