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Lemmy.ml is acting as a proxy instance for Hexbear and should be defederated by any instances that defederate from Hexbear (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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The mods of all the major communities there remove comments criticism Hexbear and usually follow it up with a ban. It's absolutely clear what is happening and it shouldn't be allowed to continue.

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[–] 5 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Honestly I think it's just people that haven't thought very deeply about the nature of communities they're supporting.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    nor how letting a large, poorly moderated instance run wild can negatively affect discourse on the entire platform. Before Hexbear was defed'd on lemmy.ca, Lemmy was damn near unusable on many threads because of the spam and trolling. Blocking them doesn't stop them from bothering those who haven't and it affects the platform as a whole.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Blocking is not a real solution, it is putting a blanket over the problem and pretending it went away. People who suggest you do that are suggesting you enable bad faith actors by ignoring their behavior, as opposed to reporting it and/or making others aware so they can report it. We all need to work better to make the platform and spaces on it better, if no one works at it, nothing gets better.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Exactly! Letting problematic instances poison the well leads to a net negative to the platform.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    My unpopular opinion: Federating with everyone by default is not sustainable.

    It's inevitable that the lemmyverse will shatter, and everyone will be better for it.

    Instances will develop their own policies around moderation and behaviour, and federate with other instances with compatible policies.

    Basically, federation only works if everyone is acting in good faith. It wouldn't take much for a single entity acting in bad faith to fuck the entire fediverse presently.

    Presently admits are blacklisting the bad faith instances. That's going to change so admins whitelist compatible instances.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Exactly. Without rules and enforcement, you just get a cesspit. Anarchy just doesn't work.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Perhaps more accurately, anarchy only works if everyone's objectives are similar or at least compatible.

    Like it would be nice to live in a town where you don't need to lock your doors, but it only takes one asshole to make that untenable.

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