▲ 1049 ▼ Italy begins stripping lesbian mothers of their parental rights (www.lgbtqnation.com) submitted 3 years ago by sam_uk@lemmy.world [B] to c/worldnews@lemmy.world 260 comments fedilink hide all child comments One mom said she cried for 10 days after hearing she was being removed from her daughter's birth certificate.
[–] bappity@lemmy.world 320 points 3 years ago (17 children) you have to be sub-human trash to be ok with this permalink fedilink source hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 166 points 3 years ago* (6 children) right-wing political parties have ''be sub-human trash' written in their manifesto and yet people vote them into power. From the article "Italy’s Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, leader of the far-right Brothers of Italy party, made anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric a cornerstone of her campaign for office. She opposes allowing same-sex couples to adopt as well as marriage quality, calling civil union “good enough” for LGBTQ+ couples." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] marmo7ade@lemmy.world 86 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 45 points 3 years ago It's not enough to carve out a portion of your sovereignty for the kid diddler cult to have a golden castle city guarded by foreign mercenaries, you also have to listen to their stances on parenthood, which they are, surely, experts, in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stephfinitely@kbin.social 20 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wow that was haunting to read. How much they hurt these people that just want a family is sickening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 13 points 3 years ago look at their history. the cruelty is the point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago It’s not enough to carve out a portion of your sovereignty for the kid diddler cult Huh, TIL the Catholic Church had lost all its territory to Italy and then later was granted some back (by Mussolini, no less) instead of having continuous sovereignty stemming from the Papal States and predating a unified Italy itself. That's the second time in two days that I've been about to "ackchyually" somebody but ended up learning something myself instead. I'm getting more and more impressed with the quality of discussion here on Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* and there are restrictions that prevent the adoption of “stepchildren” by one parent. That one was judged unconstitutional in Germany as it bereaves the child of a perfectly suitable caregiver -- that is it wasn't a matter of gay rights for the court but children's rights. In the end, before gay marriage was introduced, the only difference between marriages and civil unions was that gay couples could not adopt jointly, only one after the other, and generally speaking authorities are quite reluctant when it comes to singles adopting kids they aren't related to by blood. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yeepyorp@mtgzone.com 14 points 3 years ago earlier, i wrote a comment saying not to use fascism to hate humanity; at the same time, the fact that fascists are also human is something we have to acknowledge so we can stop our loved ones from falling into it permalink fedilink source parent [–] mayo@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago* The thought that keeps me sane through this is believing that the pendulum swings both ways. We have to accept that there are people who like this, and I'm going to hate them for it, but opposition will always exist. On the whole (a long time) things in society have improved and they'll continue to improve over time. It might just be our lot to have a shit round. Except for climate change. That's existential. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Willer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Trolled@lemm.ee -24 points 3 years ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lingh0e@lemmy.world 22 points 3 years ago Good. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery. You don't HAVE to be bigoted trash. It IS possible to learn empathy for your fellow man, to understand that a person's sexuality does not make them more or less of a person. It IS possible to change your ways. It IS possible to make the changes within yourself... the changes that you need to make in order to prevent a sad future where your own children disown you for being a shitheel goon. It is possible to be, you know... a good person. But I also get the feeling that you are too obsessed with the smell of your own farts to have any real understanding of how dumb you sound. Who cares if no one else wants to smell your wafting shit odor? You're perfectly happy simmering in your own idiot stink. It's not too late. You don't have to be on the wrong side of history. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guess you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Trolled@lemm.ee -14 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] youthinkyouknowme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) You created an account just to be an asshole? Jesus that's sad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lingh0e@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago They think they're being edgy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] forrgott@lemm.ee -1 points 3 years ago Upvoted to show agreement with your statement 8-D permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 166 points 3 years ago* (6 children) right-wing political parties have ''be sub-human trash' written in their manifesto and yet people vote them into power. From the article "Italy’s Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, leader of the far-right Brothers of Italy party, made anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric a cornerstone of her campaign for office. She opposes allowing same-sex couples to adopt as well as marriage quality, calling civil union “good enough” for LGBTQ+ couples." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] marmo7ade@lemmy.world 86 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 45 points 3 years ago It's not enough to carve out a portion of your sovereignty for the kid diddler cult to have a golden castle city guarded by foreign mercenaries, you also have to listen to their stances on parenthood, which they are, surely, experts, in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stephfinitely@kbin.social 20 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wow that was haunting to read. How much they hurt these people that just want a family is sickening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 13 points 3 years ago look at their history. the cruelty is the point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago It’s not enough to carve out a portion of your sovereignty for the kid diddler cult Huh, TIL the Catholic Church had lost all its territory to Italy and then later was granted some back (by Mussolini, no less) instead of having continuous sovereignty stemming from the Papal States and predating a unified Italy itself. That's the second time in two days that I've been about to "ackchyually" somebody but ended up learning something myself instead. I'm getting more and more impressed with the quality of discussion here on Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* and there are restrictions that prevent the adoption of “stepchildren” by one parent. That one was judged unconstitutional in Germany as it bereaves the child of a perfectly suitable caregiver -- that is it wasn't a matter of gay rights for the court but children's rights. In the end, before gay marriage was introduced, the only difference between marriages and civil unions was that gay couples could not adopt jointly, only one after the other, and generally speaking authorities are quite reluctant when it comes to singles adopting kids they aren't related to by blood. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] marmo7ade@lemmy.world 86 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 45 points 3 years ago It's not enough to carve out a portion of your sovereignty for the kid diddler cult to have a golden castle city guarded by foreign mercenaries, you also have to listen to their stances on parenthood, which they are, surely, experts, in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stephfinitely@kbin.social 20 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wow that was haunting to read. How much they hurt these people that just want a family is sickening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 13 points 3 years ago look at their history. the cruelty is the point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago It’s not enough to carve out a portion of your sovereignty for the kid diddler cult Huh, TIL the Catholic Church had lost all its territory to Italy and then later was granted some back (by Mussolini, no less) instead of having continuous sovereignty stemming from the Papal States and predating a unified Italy itself. That's the second time in two days that I've been about to "ackchyually" somebody but ended up learning something myself instead. I'm getting more and more impressed with the quality of discussion here on Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* and there are restrictions that prevent the adoption of “stepchildren” by one parent. That one was judged unconstitutional in Germany as it bereaves the child of a perfectly suitable caregiver -- that is it wasn't a matter of gay rights for the court but children's rights. In the end, before gay marriage was introduced, the only difference between marriages and civil unions was that gay couples could not adopt jointly, only one after the other, and generally speaking authorities are quite reluctant when it comes to singles adopting kids they aren't related to by blood. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 45 points 3 years ago It's not enough to carve out a portion of your sovereignty for the kid diddler cult to have a golden castle city guarded by foreign mercenaries, you also have to listen to their stances on parenthood, which they are, surely, experts, in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stephfinitely@kbin.social 20 points 3 years ago (1 child) Wow that was haunting to read. How much they hurt these people that just want a family is sickening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 13 points 3 years ago look at their history. the cruelty is the point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 13 points 3 years ago look at their history. the cruelty is the point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago It’s not enough to carve out a portion of your sovereignty for the kid diddler cult Huh, TIL the Catholic Church had lost all its territory to Italy and then later was granted some back (by Mussolini, no less) instead of having continuous sovereignty stemming from the Papal States and predating a unified Italy itself. That's the second time in two days that I've been about to "ackchyually" somebody but ended up learning something myself instead. I'm getting more and more impressed with the quality of discussion here on Lemmy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* and there are restrictions that prevent the adoption of “stepchildren” by one parent. That one was judged unconstitutional in Germany as it bereaves the child of a perfectly suitable caregiver -- that is it wasn't a matter of gay rights for the court but children's rights. In the end, before gay marriage was introduced, the only difference between marriages and civil unions was that gay couples could not adopt jointly, only one after the other, and generally speaking authorities are quite reluctant when it comes to singles adopting kids they aren't related to by blood. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yeepyorp@mtgzone.com 14 points 3 years ago earlier, i wrote a comment saying not to use fascism to hate humanity; at the same time, the fact that fascists are also human is something we have to acknowledge so we can stop our loved ones from falling into it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mayo@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago* The thought that keeps me sane through this is believing that the pendulum swings both ways. We have to accept that there are people who like this, and I'm going to hate them for it, but opposition will always exist. On the whole (a long time) things in society have improved and they'll continue to improve over time. It might just be our lot to have a shit round. Except for climate change. That's existential. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Trolled@lemm.ee -24 points 3 years ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lingh0e@lemmy.world 22 points 3 years ago Good. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery. You don't HAVE to be bigoted trash. It IS possible to learn empathy for your fellow man, to understand that a person's sexuality does not make them more or less of a person. It IS possible to change your ways. It IS possible to make the changes within yourself... the changes that you need to make in order to prevent a sad future where your own children disown you for being a shitheel goon. It is possible to be, you know... a good person. But I also get the feeling that you are too obsessed with the smell of your own farts to have any real understanding of how dumb you sound. Who cares if no one else wants to smell your wafting shit odor? You're perfectly happy simmering in your own idiot stink. It's not too late. You don't have to be on the wrong side of history. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guess you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Trolled@lemm.ee -14 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] youthinkyouknowme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) You created an account just to be an asshole? Jesus that's sad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lingh0e@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago They think they're being edgy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] forrgott@lemm.ee -1 points 3 years ago Upvoted to show agreement with your statement 8-D permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lingh0e@lemmy.world 22 points 3 years ago Good. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery. You don't HAVE to be bigoted trash. It IS possible to learn empathy for your fellow man, to understand that a person's sexuality does not make them more or less of a person. It IS possible to change your ways. It IS possible to make the changes within yourself... the changes that you need to make in order to prevent a sad future where your own children disown you for being a shitheel goon. It is possible to be, you know... a good person. But I also get the feeling that you are too obsessed with the smell of your own farts to have any real understanding of how dumb you sound. Who cares if no one else wants to smell your wafting shit odor? You're perfectly happy simmering in your own idiot stink. It's not too late. You don't have to be on the wrong side of history. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Guess you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Trolled@lemm.ee -14 points 3 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] youthinkyouknowme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) You created an account just to be an asshole? Jesus that's sad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lingh0e@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago They think they're being edgy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lingh0e@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago They think they're being edgy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] forrgott@lemm.ee -1 points 3 years ago Upvoted to show agreement with your statement 8-D permalink fedilink source parent