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Energy efficiency of active travel (walking, cycling, ebike) compared to an electric car (slrpnk.net)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [M] to c/climate@slrpnk.net
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[–] 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Also biking and walking are not necessarily even viable for certain commutes such as any over about 4 miles/ whatever that is in kilometers say 8, and anytime I need to carry heavy luggage / groceries. Or anytime anybody with mobility issues needs to travel.

It's all very well insane if we wanted to buy an e-bike and get rid of their car but that's not really practical.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 years ago

    The break-even distance in urban areas, where it takes the same amount of time to bike, is typically more like 7 miles. That's about half of commutes. Not a 100% replacement for everybody, but big enough to make a meaningful difference.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    <7km is too far to bike?

    Oh man. Well, I agree on the other things you said, but... 6.4 km isn't that much. It's a fair bit, yeah, but not that much. With an e-bike, it's not really even a thing. I chose to use the healthcare in the next city over (I live on the border of two cities) and I have about ~7km whenever I go there. 10-15 min with an ebike. With a regular one it'd be a chore, but it wouldn't take much longer, 20-25 minutes maybe with a loose pace.

    But yeah biking definitely can't replace everything. I mean, cargo bikes exist, but still.

    With mobility issues, we now have a lot of mobility "scooters" that go about 25km/h per the EU regulations. Like a super buffed up wheelchair. with a sort of chassis. Small enough to fit in the back of a taxi-van that has a disabled lift, but still quick enough to use in a similar way as a bike.

    Still tho. I want my cheap rental ecars.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Bikes don't have to replace everything to make a big difference. Something like "use them as the default choice for shorter distances" makes a big difference.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Oh definitely.

    I would like to one day see one of those horrible American cities that you can't even traverse on foot / bike, but I don't want to step a foot in the US, with the whole fucked up corruption, military-industrial complex, and the whole budding protofascism.

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