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Energy efficiency of active travel (walking, cycling, ebike) compared to an electric car (slrpnk.net)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [M] to c/climate@slrpnk.net
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[–] 17 points 2 years ago (6 children)

This data needs to be normalized by speed or realistic range/day. Otherwise it's pretty meaningless.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    It is totally pointless, I am totally on side of bikes and walkable cities, but this chart is pointless. What battery stores and what humans use is not comparable, and adding combustion engine car/bus/train here would throw the chart to totally other scale. Train has enough kWh to power a small town, but it carries shit ton of load.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Like most "fuck cars" memes it's only relevant if you're a young single person with no hobbies who never travels more than 5km from their home without taking public transport.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    who never travels more than 5km from their home without taking public transport.

    So 90% of all humans (excluding 'murica, I guess)

    it’s only relevant if you’re a young single person

    Literal bullshit. Are your legs made of styrofoam? If not, you can handle a little cycling.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Actually, in February I spent 22 hours on my mountain bike - I know you don't care snd perhaps not a big deal but it's a recent achievement in quite proud of.

    Regardless, my comments are not about fitness. Young single people tend to have less commitments.

    My partner and I have newborn twins. The only transport options are pram and car. We do have a bike trailer for them but it's not really safe until they're 1.

    The same situation applies if you're caring for an elderly parent. Which I am.

    The way you assume it's about fitness is kind of a "case in point" to be honest - you're incapable of considering that others have different transport needs.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Why the hell are you taking newborns or elderly people in long commutes (and not using a train)?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    I live in regional Australia. There are no passenger trains within about 5 hours drive.

    The city I live in has about 50,000 people. I'm not in the middle of nowhere.

    My parents do live in the middle of nowhere though, about an 150km from the nearest grocery store.

    My circumstances aren't that unusual really.

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