▲ 1321 ▼ Please don't use Discord for FOSS projects (drewdevault.com) submitted 2 years ago by starman@programming.dev to c/opensource@lemmy.ml 402 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Maturi0n@feddit.de 50 points 2 years ago (11 children) Convenience probably. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world -20 points 2 years ago (10 children) Email is inconvenient? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 years ago (9 children) Yes. The correct answer was forum. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (8 children) I merely suggested an alternative to forums because everyone said signing up was inconvenient permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 years ago (7 children) You don't need to sign up for forums for them to be searched through. The point is that Discord is an information black hole. It's all contained within the server, unindexed, private, hidden, and entirely gone if the server gets deleted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (6 children) You would need to sign up to be able to participate, which seems to be the pain point from the beginning. That was the reason why I suggested email threads akin to what Linus and Co use for Kernel development, since those can be searched no problem, whilst almost everyone has email IDs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I don't think participation is the problem. If you think about it, you wouldn't want just anyone to post something on a platform without first engaging in said platform. That can only have a neutral or negative effect. People asking stupid questions or people cursing out users. The act of signup ensures that the would-be poster has to signup first and rationalize their post during that process. Therefor, the problem must be something else, it is the information gateoff (amongst other things) that makes Discord and similar apps unfavorable for community management and information distribution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I fail to understand why people would even use discord for something like this is sign up is not the problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago There' plenty of reasons, most of which have to do with the human psyche and error. I imagine it's largely due to convenience. And then one may rationalize that initial thought by assuming that most of their potential audience uses Discord anyway, so they won't consider other options due to just how damn easy to setup and monitor their community via a Discord-like app is. They may not consider searchability, or information access at all. They may give very little weight to the fact that their entire potential community is subject to Discord's whims. They simply may not be aware of how beneficial other options are. Humans do not act based on reason. They act on a mixture of emotion and intuition, and only reinforce their initial position with reason, of one form on another. There is no point of attempting to apply logic to why the people (generically) do anything because of that. On the other hand, attempting to look at this scenario from why something should be done a certain way, as opposed to why it is done a certain way, has merit, as it allows us to influence a decision before it is made in the instant it is conceived. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Or you can use Github SSO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well in that case I can't fathom why forums are not more popular permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] superbirra@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago because they are a PITA indeed and it's easy to promote toxic/savant attitudes, just like lemmy but worse :P permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world -20 points 2 years ago (10 children) Email is inconvenient? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 years ago (9 children) Yes. The correct answer was forum. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (8 children) I merely suggested an alternative to forums because everyone said signing up was inconvenient permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 years ago (7 children) You don't need to sign up for forums for them to be searched through. The point is that Discord is an information black hole. It's all contained within the server, unindexed, private, hidden, and entirely gone if the server gets deleted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (6 children) You would need to sign up to be able to participate, which seems to be the pain point from the beginning. That was the reason why I suggested email threads akin to what Linus and Co use for Kernel development, since those can be searched no problem, whilst almost everyone has email IDs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I don't think participation is the problem. If you think about it, you wouldn't want just anyone to post something on a platform without first engaging in said platform. That can only have a neutral or negative effect. People asking stupid questions or people cursing out users. The act of signup ensures that the would-be poster has to signup first and rationalize their post during that process. Therefor, the problem must be something else, it is the information gateoff (amongst other things) that makes Discord and similar apps unfavorable for community management and information distribution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I fail to understand why people would even use discord for something like this is sign up is not the problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago There' plenty of reasons, most of which have to do with the human psyche and error. I imagine it's largely due to convenience. And then one may rationalize that initial thought by assuming that most of their potential audience uses Discord anyway, so they won't consider other options due to just how damn easy to setup and monitor their community via a Discord-like app is. They may not consider searchability, or information access at all. They may give very little weight to the fact that their entire potential community is subject to Discord's whims. They simply may not be aware of how beneficial other options are. Humans do not act based on reason. They act on a mixture of emotion and intuition, and only reinforce their initial position with reason, of one form on another. There is no point of attempting to apply logic to why the people (generically) do anything because of that. On the other hand, attempting to look at this scenario from why something should be done a certain way, as opposed to why it is done a certain way, has merit, as it allows us to influence a decision before it is made in the instant it is conceived. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Or you can use Github SSO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well in that case I can't fathom why forums are not more popular permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] superbirra@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago because they are a PITA indeed and it's easy to promote toxic/savant attitudes, just like lemmy but worse :P permalink fedilink source parent
[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 years ago (9 children) Yes. The correct answer was forum. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (8 children) I merely suggested an alternative to forums because everyone said signing up was inconvenient permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 years ago (7 children) You don't need to sign up for forums for them to be searched through. The point is that Discord is an information black hole. It's all contained within the server, unindexed, private, hidden, and entirely gone if the server gets deleted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (6 children) You would need to sign up to be able to participate, which seems to be the pain point from the beginning. That was the reason why I suggested email threads akin to what Linus and Co use for Kernel development, since those can be searched no problem, whilst almost everyone has email IDs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I don't think participation is the problem. If you think about it, you wouldn't want just anyone to post something on a platform without first engaging in said platform. That can only have a neutral or negative effect. People asking stupid questions or people cursing out users. The act of signup ensures that the would-be poster has to signup first and rationalize their post during that process. Therefor, the problem must be something else, it is the information gateoff (amongst other things) that makes Discord and similar apps unfavorable for community management and information distribution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I fail to understand why people would even use discord for something like this is sign up is not the problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago There' plenty of reasons, most of which have to do with the human psyche and error. I imagine it's largely due to convenience. And then one may rationalize that initial thought by assuming that most of their potential audience uses Discord anyway, so they won't consider other options due to just how damn easy to setup and monitor their community via a Discord-like app is. They may not consider searchability, or information access at all. They may give very little weight to the fact that their entire potential community is subject to Discord's whims. They simply may not be aware of how beneficial other options are. Humans do not act based on reason. They act on a mixture of emotion and intuition, and only reinforce their initial position with reason, of one form on another. There is no point of attempting to apply logic to why the people (generically) do anything because of that. On the other hand, attempting to look at this scenario from why something should be done a certain way, as opposed to why it is done a certain way, has merit, as it allows us to influence a decision before it is made in the instant it is conceived. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Or you can use Github SSO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well in that case I can't fathom why forums are not more popular permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] superbirra@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago because they are a PITA indeed and it's easy to promote toxic/savant attitudes, just like lemmy but worse :P permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (8 children) I merely suggested an alternative to forums because everyone said signing up was inconvenient permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 years ago (7 children) You don't need to sign up for forums for them to be searched through. The point is that Discord is an information black hole. It's all contained within the server, unindexed, private, hidden, and entirely gone if the server gets deleted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (6 children) You would need to sign up to be able to participate, which seems to be the pain point from the beginning. That was the reason why I suggested email threads akin to what Linus and Co use for Kernel development, since those can be searched no problem, whilst almost everyone has email IDs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I don't think participation is the problem. If you think about it, you wouldn't want just anyone to post something on a platform without first engaging in said platform. That can only have a neutral or negative effect. People asking stupid questions or people cursing out users. The act of signup ensures that the would-be poster has to signup first and rationalize their post during that process. Therefor, the problem must be something else, it is the information gateoff (amongst other things) that makes Discord and similar apps unfavorable for community management and information distribution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I fail to understand why people would even use discord for something like this is sign up is not the problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago There' plenty of reasons, most of which have to do with the human psyche and error. I imagine it's largely due to convenience. And then one may rationalize that initial thought by assuming that most of their potential audience uses Discord anyway, so they won't consider other options due to just how damn easy to setup and monitor their community via a Discord-like app is. They may not consider searchability, or information access at all. They may give very little weight to the fact that their entire potential community is subject to Discord's whims. They simply may not be aware of how beneficial other options are. Humans do not act based on reason. They act on a mixture of emotion and intuition, and only reinforce their initial position with reason, of one form on another. There is no point of attempting to apply logic to why the people (generically) do anything because of that. On the other hand, attempting to look at this scenario from why something should be done a certain way, as opposed to why it is done a certain way, has merit, as it allows us to influence a decision before it is made in the instant it is conceived. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Or you can use Github SSO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well in that case I can't fathom why forums are not more popular permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] superbirra@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago because they are a PITA indeed and it's easy to promote toxic/savant attitudes, just like lemmy but worse :P permalink fedilink source parent
[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 years ago (7 children) You don't need to sign up for forums for them to be searched through. The point is that Discord is an information black hole. It's all contained within the server, unindexed, private, hidden, and entirely gone if the server gets deleted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (6 children) You would need to sign up to be able to participate, which seems to be the pain point from the beginning. That was the reason why I suggested email threads akin to what Linus and Co use for Kernel development, since those can be searched no problem, whilst almost everyone has email IDs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I don't think participation is the problem. If you think about it, you wouldn't want just anyone to post something on a platform without first engaging in said platform. That can only have a neutral or negative effect. People asking stupid questions or people cursing out users. The act of signup ensures that the would-be poster has to signup first and rationalize their post during that process. Therefor, the problem must be something else, it is the information gateoff (amongst other things) that makes Discord and similar apps unfavorable for community management and information distribution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I fail to understand why people would even use discord for something like this is sign up is not the problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago There' plenty of reasons, most of which have to do with the human psyche and error. I imagine it's largely due to convenience. And then one may rationalize that initial thought by assuming that most of their potential audience uses Discord anyway, so they won't consider other options due to just how damn easy to setup and monitor their community via a Discord-like app is. They may not consider searchability, or information access at all. They may give very little weight to the fact that their entire potential community is subject to Discord's whims. They simply may not be aware of how beneficial other options are. Humans do not act based on reason. They act on a mixture of emotion and intuition, and only reinforce their initial position with reason, of one form on another. There is no point of attempting to apply logic to why the people (generically) do anything because of that. On the other hand, attempting to look at this scenario from why something should be done a certain way, as opposed to why it is done a certain way, has merit, as it allows us to influence a decision before it is made in the instant it is conceived. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Or you can use Github SSO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well in that case I can't fathom why forums are not more popular permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] superbirra@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago because they are a PITA indeed and it's easy to promote toxic/savant attitudes, just like lemmy but worse :P permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (6 children) You would need to sign up to be able to participate, which seems to be the pain point from the beginning. That was the reason why I suggested email threads akin to what Linus and Co use for Kernel development, since those can be searched no problem, whilst almost everyone has email IDs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I don't think participation is the problem. If you think about it, you wouldn't want just anyone to post something on a platform without first engaging in said platform. That can only have a neutral or negative effect. People asking stupid questions or people cursing out users. The act of signup ensures that the would-be poster has to signup first and rationalize their post during that process. Therefor, the problem must be something else, it is the information gateoff (amongst other things) that makes Discord and similar apps unfavorable for community management and information distribution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I fail to understand why people would even use discord for something like this is sign up is not the problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago There' plenty of reasons, most of which have to do with the human psyche and error. I imagine it's largely due to convenience. And then one may rationalize that initial thought by assuming that most of their potential audience uses Discord anyway, so they won't consider other options due to just how damn easy to setup and monitor their community via a Discord-like app is. They may not consider searchability, or information access at all. They may give very little weight to the fact that their entire potential community is subject to Discord's whims. They simply may not be aware of how beneficial other options are. Humans do not act based on reason. They act on a mixture of emotion and intuition, and only reinforce their initial position with reason, of one form on another. There is no point of attempting to apply logic to why the people (generically) do anything because of that. On the other hand, attempting to look at this scenario from why something should be done a certain way, as opposed to why it is done a certain way, has merit, as it allows us to influence a decision before it is made in the instant it is conceived. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Or you can use Github SSO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well in that case I can't fathom why forums are not more popular permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] superbirra@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago because they are a PITA indeed and it's easy to promote toxic/savant attitudes, just like lemmy but worse :P permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I don't think participation is the problem. If you think about it, you wouldn't want just anyone to post something on a platform without first engaging in said platform. That can only have a neutral or negative effect. People asking stupid questions or people cursing out users. The act of signup ensures that the would-be poster has to signup first and rationalize their post during that process. Therefor, the problem must be something else, it is the information gateoff (amongst other things) that makes Discord and similar apps unfavorable for community management and information distribution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I fail to understand why people would even use discord for something like this is sign up is not the problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago There' plenty of reasons, most of which have to do with the human psyche and error. I imagine it's largely due to convenience. And then one may rationalize that initial thought by assuming that most of their potential audience uses Discord anyway, so they won't consider other options due to just how damn easy to setup and monitor their community via a Discord-like app is. They may not consider searchability, or information access at all. They may give very little weight to the fact that their entire potential community is subject to Discord's whims. They simply may not be aware of how beneficial other options are. Humans do not act based on reason. They act on a mixture of emotion and intuition, and only reinforce their initial position with reason, of one form on another. There is no point of attempting to apply logic to why the people (generically) do anything because of that. On the other hand, attempting to look at this scenario from why something should be done a certain way, as opposed to why it is done a certain way, has merit, as it allows us to influence a decision before it is made in the instant it is conceived. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I fail to understand why people would even use discord for something like this is sign up is not the problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago There' plenty of reasons, most of which have to do with the human psyche and error. I imagine it's largely due to convenience. And then one may rationalize that initial thought by assuming that most of their potential audience uses Discord anyway, so they won't consider other options due to just how damn easy to setup and monitor their community via a Discord-like app is. They may not consider searchability, or information access at all. They may give very little weight to the fact that their entire potential community is subject to Discord's whims. They simply may not be aware of how beneficial other options are. Humans do not act based on reason. They act on a mixture of emotion and intuition, and only reinforce their initial position with reason, of one form on another. There is no point of attempting to apply logic to why the people (generically) do anything because of that. On the other hand, attempting to look at this scenario from why something should be done a certain way, as opposed to why it is done a certain way, has merit, as it allows us to influence a decision before it is made in the instant it is conceived. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago There' plenty of reasons, most of which have to do with the human psyche and error. I imagine it's largely due to convenience. And then one may rationalize that initial thought by assuming that most of their potential audience uses Discord anyway, so they won't consider other options due to just how damn easy to setup and monitor their community via a Discord-like app is. They may not consider searchability, or information access at all. They may give very little weight to the fact that their entire potential community is subject to Discord's whims. They simply may not be aware of how beneficial other options are. Humans do not act based on reason. They act on a mixture of emotion and intuition, and only reinforce their initial position with reason, of one form on another. There is no point of attempting to apply logic to why the people (generically) do anything because of that. On the other hand, attempting to look at this scenario from why something should be done a certain way, as opposed to why it is done a certain way, has merit, as it allows us to influence a decision before it is made in the instant it is conceived. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Or you can use Github SSO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well in that case I can't fathom why forums are not more popular permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] superbirra@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago because they are a PITA indeed and it's easy to promote toxic/savant attitudes, just like lemmy but worse :P permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well in that case I can't fathom why forums are not more popular permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] superbirra@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago because they are a PITA indeed and it's easy to promote toxic/savant attitudes, just like lemmy but worse :P permalink fedilink source parent
[–] superbirra@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago because they are a PITA indeed and it's easy to promote toxic/savant attitudes, just like lemmy but worse :P permalink fedilink source parent