▲ 72 ▼ Why has Firefox not removed third-party cookies, despite the fact that Chrome has begun phasing them out? (lemy.lol) submitted 2 years ago by King@lemy.lol to c/technology@lemmy.world 33 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Rob@lemdro.id 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] King@lemy.lol [S] -37 points 2 years ago (4 children) Third-party cookies make tracking users easier. I am not asking Firefox to follow Chrome at each step. I am just asking for the privacy browser to improve users' privacy by removing support for third-party cookies, because it theoretically will not break anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] c10l@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 child) 3rd party cookies make tracking users easier when the same cookie can be used on many websites. Firefox does 2 things to protect you from that: it blocks known trackers cookies by default; and for the others it isolates them per domain so that kind of tracking doesn’t happen. That ensures you’re not tracked and at the same time it doesn’t break any functionality. If you want to completely block them you can. There’s more info here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/third-party-cookies-firefox-tracking-protection permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Rob@lemdro.id 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Rob@lemdro.id 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Spotlight7573@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure how moving stuff like topics of interest into the browser where it can be modified/turned off by the user in a single, local location isn't an improvement over the current situation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because google is still tracking you. They are just getting rid of third party cookies being able to follow you on the web. They have fingerprinted the chrome browser itself, so every instance of it is unique to the individual using it (or their hardware) with the intent of continuing to track you while making it difficult for other third parties to do the same. And they're using deceptive language to make it seem like that's not what's happening. That language may not work on everyone but it will work on the vast majority especially of younger gen people who just aren't as tech savvy despite how much tech is integrated into their lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Rob@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) You clearly don't know what you're talking about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheBlackLounge@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's why they're asking permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago They're asking in a presumptive, judgemental way permalink fedilink source parent [–] Spotlight7573@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago I believe Mozilla said it best here: https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2018/01/26/improving-privacy-without-breaking-the-web/ Firefox’s privacy protections must be usable on the web, or people will simply stop using Firefox altogether. The web is not at the stage yet where third-party cookies can be disabled entirely. Chrome's phase out of them this year should push all those sites still clinging to them to fix their sites. This should mean less problems when using Firefox's privacy features. Firefox won't necessarily need to remove the feature soon anyways since it already isolates them per site. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] King@lemy.lol [S] -37 points 2 years ago (4 children) Third-party cookies make tracking users easier. I am not asking Firefox to follow Chrome at each step. I am just asking for the privacy browser to improve users' privacy by removing support for third-party cookies, because it theoretically will not break anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] c10l@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 child) 3rd party cookies make tracking users easier when the same cookie can be used on many websites. Firefox does 2 things to protect you from that: it blocks known trackers cookies by default; and for the others it isolates them per domain so that kind of tracking doesn’t happen. That ensures you’re not tracked and at the same time it doesn’t break any functionality. If you want to completely block them you can. There’s more info here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/third-party-cookies-firefox-tracking-protection permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Rob@lemdro.id 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Rob@lemdro.id 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Spotlight7573@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure how moving stuff like topics of interest into the browser where it can be modified/turned off by the user in a single, local location isn't an improvement over the current situation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because google is still tracking you. They are just getting rid of third party cookies being able to follow you on the web. They have fingerprinted the chrome browser itself, so every instance of it is unique to the individual using it (or their hardware) with the intent of continuing to track you while making it difficult for other third parties to do the same. And they're using deceptive language to make it seem like that's not what's happening. That language may not work on everyone but it will work on the vast majority especially of younger gen people who just aren't as tech savvy despite how much tech is integrated into their lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Rob@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) You clearly don't know what you're talking about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheBlackLounge@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's why they're asking permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago They're asking in a presumptive, judgemental way permalink fedilink source parent [–] Spotlight7573@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago I believe Mozilla said it best here: https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2018/01/26/improving-privacy-without-breaking-the-web/ Firefox’s privacy protections must be usable on the web, or people will simply stop using Firefox altogether. The web is not at the stage yet where third-party cookies can be disabled entirely. Chrome's phase out of them this year should push all those sites still clinging to them to fix their sites. This should mean less problems when using Firefox's privacy features. Firefox won't necessarily need to remove the feature soon anyways since it already isolates them per site. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] c10l@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 child) 3rd party cookies make tracking users easier when the same cookie can be used on many websites. Firefox does 2 things to protect you from that: it blocks known trackers cookies by default; and for the others it isolates them per domain so that kind of tracking doesn’t happen. That ensures you’re not tracked and at the same time it doesn’t break any functionality. If you want to completely block them you can. There’s more info here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/third-party-cookies-firefox-tracking-protection permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Rob@lemdro.id 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Rob@lemdro.id 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Rob@lemdro.id 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Spotlight7573@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure how moving stuff like topics of interest into the browser where it can be modified/turned off by the user in a single, local location isn't an improvement over the current situation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because google is still tracking you. They are just getting rid of third party cookies being able to follow you on the web. They have fingerprinted the chrome browser itself, so every instance of it is unique to the individual using it (or their hardware) with the intent of continuing to track you while making it difficult for other third parties to do the same. And they're using deceptive language to make it seem like that's not what's happening. That language may not work on everyone but it will work on the vast majority especially of younger gen people who just aren't as tech savvy despite how much tech is integrated into their lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Rob@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Spotlight7573@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure how moving stuff like topics of interest into the browser where it can be modified/turned off by the user in a single, local location isn't an improvement over the current situation? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because google is still tracking you. They are just getting rid of third party cookies being able to follow you on the web. They have fingerprinted the chrome browser itself, so every instance of it is unique to the individual using it (or their hardware) with the intent of continuing to track you while making it difficult for other third parties to do the same. And they're using deceptive language to make it seem like that's not what's happening. That language may not work on everyone but it will work on the vast majority especially of younger gen people who just aren't as tech savvy despite how much tech is integrated into their lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Rob@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because google is still tracking you. They are just getting rid of third party cookies being able to follow you on the web. They have fingerprinted the chrome browser itself, so every instance of it is unique to the individual using it (or their hardware) with the intent of continuing to track you while making it difficult for other third parties to do the same. And they're using deceptive language to make it seem like that's not what's happening. That language may not work on everyone but it will work on the vast majority especially of younger gen people who just aren't as tech savvy despite how much tech is integrated into their lives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Rob@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Rob@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) You clearly don't know what you're talking about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheBlackLounge@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's why they're asking permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago They're asking in a presumptive, judgemental way permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheBlackLounge@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's why they're asking permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago They're asking in a presumptive, judgemental way permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago They're asking in a presumptive, judgemental way permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Spotlight7573@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago I believe Mozilla said it best here: https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2018/01/26/improving-privacy-without-breaking-the-web/ Firefox’s privacy protections must be usable on the web, or people will simply stop using Firefox altogether. The web is not at the stage yet where third-party cookies can be disabled entirely. Chrome's phase out of them this year should push all those sites still clinging to them to fix their sites. This should mean less problems when using Firefox's privacy features. Firefox won't necessarily need to remove the feature soon anyways since it already isolates them per site. permalink fedilink source parent