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Why Charging Your Gadgets Over 80% Is Such a Bad Idea | iFixit News (www.ifixit.com)
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[–] 29 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Thanks to EU this will be changing in the near future. Personally I'm one of the stubborn ones who refused to buy devices with non-removable batteries and by the looks of it I will never have to either. Hopefully this applies to the headphone jack aswell.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    The USB C to audio jack is ok. I'd like to have replaceable batteries, but my last few phones there wasn't one that had that and what else I wanted. I had to compromise. Glad the EU is forcing things to improve.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    I strongly disagree.

    I have yet to buy a phone without a headphone jack.

    I've got earphones that are 17 years old and sound great. An audio jack in the car that connects way faster than Bluetooth. A hifi older than me.

    The amount of electrical waste and incompatibilities caused by ditching a universal standard is not small.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    The standard still usable, you just need an adaptor. I don't because Android Auto is my car navigation anyway, so it might as well do audio for podcasts. If I'm out and about, or doing house stuff, my bluetooth ear piece means I can listen to podcasts without wires in the way. At work, I've not used wired headphones since forever. I subconsciously chewed the cable and kept pushing out my chair to roll over somewhere forgetting the wire.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (8 children)

    Adapters are more electric thrash.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Not really, as it's a standard you could keep the adaptor longer than the phone. Adaptors keep legacy stuff in use, extending their lives.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (6 children)

    Making up theories that don't match reality.

    Is talking to you worth any time at all?

    All dongles break, especially the fairphone ones.

    They are initially unnecessary to manufacture, then become unnecessary waste.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I don't get why this works you up so much. The majority of users have gone wire free, and the manufacturers have cost optimized accordingly. They have left backwards compatibility via a standardized adaptor.

    There is no reason the adaptors have to be fragile. You can probably get cables with the adaptor built in to be honest. Like DisplayPort to HDMI between a PC and a TV used to give that old PC a second life as a media PC.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    The hypocrisy of encouraging waste while pretending to be against that is what I'm calling out.

    They're hypocrites and the worse they do the better a competitor for the ethical market can rise.

    To be honest I'd just buy a Nokia. They're more committed to actually producing a sustainable product at volume.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    My last phone I got 5 years out of and it was second hand when I got it. At work we make of point of keeping old equipment going as long as we can (adaptors is one of the ways of doing that). I'm absolutely not encouraging waste.

    Competing against the main phone makers is extremely hard. The market is very competitive on hardware. FairPhone do about as well as they can do. The problem is blind trust in markets. Consumers aren't suddenly all going to wake up and make long term decisions with lower value upfront. It's like FairTrade, why is it left to a consumer choice if trade is fair or not? What is needed is regulations.

    I'm afraid your audio jack is legacy so few want it's not even part of this discussion to me.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    They've probably lost to the competition already.

    Nokia are more sustainable and offer more options for a lower price.

    Fairphone are a virtue signalling brand at best now and a hypocritical one at that.

    Anyone with a fairphone 4 might have made an honest mistake, a 5 or later and they're just gullible.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Even they aren't the most sustainable directly anymore, it shows there is an appetite for sustainability. But as I said before, I don't want this just left to the market. I want ratcheting minimum legal sustainability standard, right to repair in law and repairability index on products. Plus a lot of other stuff to help alternative operating systems compete.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    The EU and Nokia are at the forefront of what you're asking for.

    Ultimately the more appetite for sustainability the better and the less custom sent to companies which are not actually sustainable the better.

    Fairphone isn't a sustainable company it's pretending to be one and taking market share from more reputable companies.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So how do you charge your phone while listening to music? Plug a splitter dongle into your headphone dongle? When this could be built into your phone? Yes a compromise.

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