▲ 5 ▼ Marxist Paul - Is China Imperialist? w/Premier Matthew (www.youtube.com) submitted 2 years ago by TheBroodian@hexbear.net to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml 8 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/1767486 I'd be interested to hear thoughts about this discussion from Comrades in Hexbear and Lemmygrad.
[–] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can't trust Marxist Paul's opinion on China so I dont wanna spend the time, but I'd love to be wrong permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net [S] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you elaborate why? For my own information, not for the purposes of questioning your reasoning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) There was a few specific things he said that rubbed me an Ultra sort of way, I can't remember much in particular. I do remember specifically him and Hakim talking about China some 3-5ish years ago, which can be summed up by Hakim saying he was "hesistantly optimistic" about China and Paul chiming that he was "hesitantly pessimistic"--in context of whether or not China was actually socialist. Perhaps he has changed, but people who get sucked into anti-Chinese leftist spaces tend to, in my experience, get worse with time, not better. Love to be wrong though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net [S] 1 point 2 years ago I appreciate this sentiment, I definitely prefer to be as Hakim is. Even while acknowledging China's problems, I prefer to see it as a progressive actor taking humanity in a better direction. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net [S] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you elaborate why? For my own information, not for the purposes of questioning your reasoning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) There was a few specific things he said that rubbed me an Ultra sort of way, I can't remember much in particular. I do remember specifically him and Hakim talking about China some 3-5ish years ago, which can be summed up by Hakim saying he was "hesistantly optimistic" about China and Paul chiming that he was "hesitantly pessimistic"--in context of whether or not China was actually socialist. Perhaps he has changed, but people who get sucked into anti-Chinese leftist spaces tend to, in my experience, get worse with time, not better. Love to be wrong though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net [S] 1 point 2 years ago I appreciate this sentiment, I definitely prefer to be as Hakim is. Even while acknowledging China's problems, I prefer to see it as a progressive actor taking humanity in a better direction. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) There was a few specific things he said that rubbed me an Ultra sort of way, I can't remember much in particular. I do remember specifically him and Hakim talking about China some 3-5ish years ago, which can be summed up by Hakim saying he was "hesistantly optimistic" about China and Paul chiming that he was "hesitantly pessimistic"--in context of whether or not China was actually socialist. Perhaps he has changed, but people who get sucked into anti-Chinese leftist spaces tend to, in my experience, get worse with time, not better. Love to be wrong though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net [S] 1 point 2 years ago I appreciate this sentiment, I definitely prefer to be as Hakim is. Even while acknowledging China's problems, I prefer to see it as a progressive actor taking humanity in a better direction. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net [S] 1 point 2 years ago I appreciate this sentiment, I definitely prefer to be as Hakim is. Even while acknowledging China's problems, I prefer to see it as a progressive actor taking humanity in a better direction. permalink fedilink source parent