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Chromecast with Google TV is now serving full-screen, auto-playing Chicken Tender Wrap ads (www.androidauthority.com)
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Reddit users thevincentasteroid and MMD3_ posted about an auto-playing video ad (with sound) on the home screen. The ad is for Chicken Tender Wraps from Carl’s Jr. When it begins auto-playing, it pushes all the other UI elements out of focus and goes almost full-screen, returning to the home screen after it has played through once.

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[–] 85 points 2 years ago* (6 children)

Nope.

That's just how the ad at the top looks and always has, and yes, it plays if you hover over it, they always have, and yes, it expands out if you keep watching it and don't touch anything.

If you use the UI normally the ad doesn't play, the person in that video explicitly played the ad.

plays ad

ad plays

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Get this clickbait shit outta here. It's literally an ai generated article that stole content off a reddit post as it's "source". Have some standards people.

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  • [–] 61 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    As an AppleTV user I’m honestly shocked folks are ok with their product they paid for having advertisements on it like that anyways?

    It’s one thing to advertise a show or an app / service that is in the App Store but another to show actual ads.

    It’s weird to me.

    Then again, you and your advertisement ID are googles business.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    We are not okay with it.
    But else you have this, some flavor of AndroidTV + Launcher, an AppleTV which probably doesnt have feature parity with all apps available for the AndroidTV or you setup your own device which involves (probably) work.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I’m not sure what app feature parity you are talking about, unless it’s a specific application for android(?)

    For what it’s worth the Apple ecosystem is the “popular/trendy” one and businesses will cut their balls off to have their app work well on Apple stuff. I say that entirely from a “Apple is the zeitgeist” not one is better than the other standpoint.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Lmao no. The apple ecosystem is not the popular/trendy one, it's the expensive one where devs must pay a license to publish their apps. There's tons of open source apps that publish to the play store but don't publish in the apple store because it costs them money to do so. I use several apps that don't have parity in ios. TachiyomiSY, Wow (weather app that apparently was published to the iPad store, not the iPhone store..., it has no ads, customizable interface and it can connect to the local weather provider which is usually the most accurate), Notify (app that let's me configure extra stuff on my MiBand), Boost (no, voyager's interface sucks for me), newpipe(! There's a newpipe in ios but it's another app and has ads lmao).

    Basically, if you want popular brand company apps, sure, they will be on ios, but I bet you they will be on android too, if not earlier because it's free to publish and nowadays if we are honest you can develop a single app with react native and voilà, make it into a functional app in both systems with minimal effort. However, the difference exists on the open source apps, on the small apps created by small devs that offer stuff for free, those don't publish into apple because it would cost them 99 USD per year just to be able to publish.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Can Apple have third party home screens?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    No, that would allow someone to take over the device.

    However, it does wake up to whatever app was last running so the difference is likely semantic.

    Mine are always in the Plex app, even on TVs that have Plex apps because they cannot return to the exact same Plex screen.

    It's weird that people are dropping hundreds or thousands on a tv only to cheap out on the device they are presumably using to stream their pirated content.

    I have Apple TVs that have outlived their original TVs. From what I'm reading here many people are on their third or fourth chrome cast. Silly.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    The earlier CCs were slow and/or had less features.
    Sorry but I don't like being stuck at 720p.

    Also they are very cheap so replacing them is hardly of any value and you can still gift them to anyone else in need.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    The only app I've run into without an official Apple TV flavor is Jellyfin, but there are two alternatives in the app store.

    Unsure if there is anything like new pipe that can eliminate YouTube ads on Apple TV but that's really nice too.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    What I meant with parity was the app catalogue.
    For example some (F)OSS devs may only be available for AndroidTV.

    Maybe not officially in the store but you can still sideload them to some extent.
    Is that even possible for devices like the AppleTV?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    You can sideload apps on Apple TV.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So unusual for Apple but very welcomed move.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    We’ve been able to sideload on iOS for quite some time.

    There have been jailbreaks (equivalent to a root) for iOS devices for quite some time, newer devices take more time to break but it always gets there.

    There is a lot of misunderstanding and tech bro tribalism around android and Apple that makes folks blind to what the other has and does

    further driving this tribalism is how my iPhone auto capitalizes Apple and iPhone properly but happily ignores chrome and android and google

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If I need to jailbreak/root my phone to sideload it's a workaround.
    I mean sideload as a feature without hacking my device and with that (to some extend) compromise security.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    You can sideload apps without jailbreaking.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Since you started talking about iOS, do you actually mean the phone OS or ATV?

    Because if phone OS: Since when were you able to sideload? Apple is still restricting it actively for all users and only now users in the EU will have the supposed option.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    There have been tools to side-load apps for a while, it’s not an official process supported by Apple.

    I haven’t had the need or want to sideload anything in a while so I’m not on top of it right now, but sideloadly appears to be the current tool for it.

    I’m talking about both however.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Q: How long will I be able to use the sideloaded app? A: A normal & free Apple Developer account only allows the app to function for 7 days. After 7 days you can sideload it again using  the same Apple ID, just make sure your progress is backed up. Apps signed with a paid Apple Developer Account can last up to 1 year.

    I can hardly call that an intended feature and more a workaround very targeted to devs and not to customers.
    The app may take care of it but...oh boy....

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    I have an android tv from Sony which is basically android tv without any kind of skin AFAIK. No ads. I had suggested videos from apps and stuff but hat was configurable and removed years ago.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    A single apple TV is like $80 more than Google TV devices to do the same thing. I don't like the ads and they irritate me, but I have 4 TVs with streaming boxes (so I don't have to replace the screens. I'm not paying an extra $360 just to not have ads on the home screen.

    It's just a situation where I'm not really okay with either option.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago

    It’s one thing to advertise a show or an app / service that is in the App Store but another to show actual ads.

    Most of the time it's this, rarely mcdonalds or Harvey's has an ad like this you need to hover over for several seconds to play, intentionally, and people turn it into rage bait garbage posts.

    90% of the time it's just an add for a TV show or movie, and you still have to purposefully hover over it unmoving to start it playing, it's pretty opt in.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't even notice it, the ad starts out small at the top and your cursor starts out on the Apps row, you have to very intentionally trigger the ad.

    90% of the time the ads are for movies or TV shows on the streaming services you have installed (and presumably an account for) anyways, so there's been non zero times where I did go abd hover the ad to watch it cuz I was like "oh hey I actually wanna watch that, is it coming out soon? No shit!"

    The other 10% if the time it's mcdonalds or Harvey's or whatever, I barely notice it as I spend pretty much all of my time with the Google tv "inside" an app.

    Very little time gets spent on the home screen, it's a glorified Start menu to pick an app and open it up, so I don't, to be blunt, give much of a shit that for half a second I can see a big Mac at the top of my TV screen before I click the 1 button to open Netflix.

    Also more often than not I use my phone app to push to the TV, so my process is:

    1. TV is turned off atm, I open on my phone (Netflix, Disney plus, crunchyroll, Amazon prime, YouTube, etc)

    2. I click the cast button on my phone

    3. TV auto detects activity, starts turning on, meanwhile my chromecast is already loading up the app and booting into it

    4. By the time my TV screen flips on, the app is opened as well and my content starts to play, so u never even saw the home screen in the first place

    End result: I rarely even see the app realistically anywho.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I bought CCwGTV when it first came out, I don't recall the adbar at the top ever not being present.

    It just was strictly ads for TV shows / movies for the first while and "external" ads for stuff like mcdonalds only showed up later.

    But I'm pretty sure I remember ads for Black Widow on it front and center, and that was only 5? 6? months after it came out. (The ads were showing up 1-2 months prior to theatrical release iirc?)

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    Oh, yeah innthat case I agree.

    Either way the mechanic of "you have to move the cursor to purposefully hover on the ad, abd then wait multiple seconds, and then not click anything" opt in behavior on the ads has lnt changed since day one.

    So seeing news articles pretending this is anything new at all really just goes to show how shit "journalism" has gotten over the years. Literally like, 5s of looking this up and you'll find out this isn't anything new.

    SMH

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I bought the Chromecast with Google TV (older version, not the newer 4k one, which I also own now) when it first cane out.

    The home screen hasn't changed since day 1 when I plugged it in.

    It always had an ad at the top, and you always have had to purposefully move the cursor onto the ad itself and not touch anything for multiple seconds before it played.

    I owned the OG chromecast and chromecast 2 before that, and you are right, that one didn't have ads, but it also didn't have much of anything really.

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I've had an Android TV for about five years. I recently bought a TV with Google TV. I don't know if this is how Google TV has always been, but it wasn't that way in Android TV.

    Seeing the home screen on the Google TV made me immediately regret the purchase. Unfortunately, the model I bought disabled the ability to make alternate launchers default. I was able to put it in app mode, but it was still plastering ads everytime you turned on the TV or hit the home button. Absolutely disgusting.

    The home screen is so bad I finally set up pi-hole on my network. Now there is just a blank area where the ads used to be with a notification saying I'm not connected to the internet, although my services are fine.

    I'll never by a Google TV again unless I can make alternative launchers default. I'm really glad I installed pi-hole, those TV send so much info back to Google. I recommend it to anyone.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Apps Only mode is a decent workaround… for now. https://support.google.com/googletv/answer/10070784?hl=en

    Really cuts down on the amount of clutter and suggestions on the main screen.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Smart TVs are the stupidest fucking things.

    No TV manufacturer is actually willing to put processing power or networking features in a TV, and they're never willing to spend money developing the software, so even new, they're slow as shit, and you can no longer realistically use them for 10 years, they'll go obsolete. A $35 external computer is more powerful and I've been using mine for a decade now without a problem. The interface is more straightforward. I don't need to log into anything. I don't need a special remote, I can just use my phone. The TV manufacturer can't spy on me. There's no microphone.

    Dumb TV + Chromecast is just a thousand times better than a smart TV.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Yeah, I've never heard of the ads people complained about. Mine was just what new streaming show was being promoted. Kind of an add, but relevant and only on home screen.

    But....

    My Sony TV 100% was playing the Hardee's ad today.

    It's not a huge deal, but still worse than it was yesterday

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Have some standards people.

    Yeah, we should all be out protecting mega corps from bankruptcy by fighting inconsequential misinformation on obscure social media platforms. Where would the world be without heroes like you? Thank you for your service.

    🏅

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    So you think it's okay to spread misinformation if it's about a giant corporation?

    Misinformation is never okay, as it muddies the waters and makes it hard to know what you can trust. If we idly stand by and let a lemmy instance degrade to the point where garbage posts like this are commonplace, it becomes difficult to sift apart the actual news and stuff that matters from the shit deluge of misinfo.

    Which means, yes, calling out misinformation / shit posts even if it's about a megacorp, because shit in the water is still shit in the water.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    There's no misinformation you're just pissed you got called out.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You and I have very different definitions of misinformation then.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Some of us live in reality and some of us accept advertisements in products you paid for. 🤷

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago*

    Whether or not you care about ads doesn't have any bearing on what is, and isn't, misinfo.

    I don't like ads either and use piholes on my network.

    Doesn't change the fact the news article is misinformation, plain and simple.

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