Who would've thought? This isn’t going to fly with the EU.

Article 5.3 of the Digital Markets Act (DMA): "The gatekeeper shall not prevent business users from offering the same products or services to end users through third-party online intermediation services or through their own direct online sales channel at prices or conditions that are different from those offered through the online intermediation services of the gatekeeper."

Friendly reminder that you can sideload apps without jailbreaking or paying for a dev account using TrollStore, which utilises core trust bugs to bypass/spoof some app validation keys, on a iPhone XR or newer on iOS 14.0 up to 16.6.1. (ANY version for iPhone X and older)

Install guide: Trollstore

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[–] 10 points 2 years ago (39 children)

I have a macbook and I'm quite happy, what am I doing wrong?

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (18 children)

    Honestly? Nothing. People just say this kind of thing because we like to tinker with our devices. If what you bought satisfies your needs and you don't need more, that's just ok. Android/windows/linux has a lot more conveniences for my use, so that's what I go for, but not everyone is the same

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (17 children)

    Android/windows/linux has a lot more conveniences for my use

    That's kind of my point. I don't get the aggression people have for someone using different brand.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Also Apple's anti-consumer decisions usually transfer to other places (such as Android) aswell, because they have a lot of influence on the rest of the market.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Pretty much this. If other brands see the vitriol, then they might think "well, guess not being that way is a way to be competitive".

    If everyone sounds perfectly cool with that facet, then everyone else goes "sweet, the Apple way gives the vendor more control over the customer, and control over the customer is valued, if we think we can get away with it"

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    So kind of moral consumerism thing?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    I just wanted to clarify if I understood the point correctly, labeling just shortens the answer.

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    That's why I summarized and asked if that's the case. The hypothesis from the person I replied to, seemed to be that it's due to people believing there is some moral obligation in consumer choice and it extending to apple making questionable, consumer unfriednly decision, therefore they can be mad and rude towards people buying apple products. I can get it.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (6 children)
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    Sure, but tribalism with a brand is just beyond my understanding (hyperbole), - it's so stupid.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Apple influence the market a lot. So paid side-loading can propagate to other companies if Apple can pull it off.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    For sure! An amount of "hate" for apple, or any company for that matter, is totally ok. Sometimes they make decisions that screw consumers just for a buck more. No reason to hate on users, tho. That's the same as saying anyone who uses a gas vehicle to go from one place to another is in favor of global warming

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I kinda disagree with the comparison, but I agree that it is dumb the blame the users.

    However, from a certain perspective, users enable companies. So some people hate the users for that. And some other people just have a bad case of tribalism.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sure, but why hate on apple users?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    I am not personally hating on the apple users, but considering that people continue to buy Apple products even after these anti-consumer practices, then some people consider that the users enable the company.

    So I can see where that is coming from. And some people are just tribal idiots.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    A MacBook is the only Apple product I'm happy with cause it's actually open in terms of being able to install any app I want and modify some things like how windows are managed.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    Come back when you have a problem with your keyboard*, or your drive, or charging issue. Repairability is downright bad now.

    I like OSX well enough.* I like the form factor of the MacBooks now that they have escape keys again. It's been 9 years since they made a MacBook that was reasonably decent to work on from the inside though. Even swapping a broken screen out is* like 3 hours now.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I'v been using mac books over a decade so not sure when I need to come back here. I was unhappy with the usbc only mac book pro and considered switching but the m1 fixed issues i had, so I'm here again. Just imagine that there are people out there who don't care to much about repair-ability.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    You don't care that a mainboard replacement will cost you $1100+ but a component-level repair is less than half of that and doesn't e-waste a whole damn board? You don't care that it would cost even less if Apple just sold the damn parts and supplied schematics?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    No? I care that I have reliable piece of hardware that is physical sturdy, that I don't have to inform myself on different hardware configurations before buying but just look at my budget and buy the one I can afford, I care about the way fonts are displayed, I care a lot about magsafe since it saved my laptop so many times, I care about the touch pad - since I even do 3d work with it and forgot how to use a mouse.

    Why is it so difficult to understand that people have different priorities? Like I can see, how repair ability might be important for someone, not everyone is like me.

    Also in more than a decade I didn't have to replace anything.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Also in more than a decade I didn’t have to replace anything

    Honestly I doubt that. I've seen many Macbook failures in my time and they are always things other laptops don't suffer. I purchase and track IT software and hardware for an organization of over 10k people and I've seen what lasts and what doesn't. The regular laptops we use? We get 4 years out of nearly all of them, and 6 if we replace the batteries and upgrade any dated bits. There are the odd designs that failed early (HP Elitebooks from a few years ago...) but most are reliable.

    There are two devices I avoid buying at all costs and make clients give me a lot of supporting rationale for, because they have poor build quality and are utterly unrepairable: Microsoft Surface, and Apple Macbooks. At scale, running these is incredibly expensive for no good reason.

    Example of an issue that has happened: client was running a bunch of VMs and filled up the SSD on their Dell laptop. I replaced it with a larger SSD rather than buy an entire device. That happens on a Mac? Tough because that SSD is soldered in. On that note, good luck extracting that data if the mainboard fails. That was fun telling someone they lost a mountain of data.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago*

    Honestly I doubt that.

    Not sure why I would lie, but feel free to not believe me. Maybe I'm just lucky, I had three macbook pros and the only problem I had was a battery dying on one, but it was close to where I needed a new one anyway. And I need my hardware to be reliable and the conditions I use it are rather suboptimal (live events). Never turned off on me or died during a gig. I had a windows machine from a venue once - it started updating 10 minutes before the gig.

    Like I don't care about the brand, I have a cheap android phone because it gives me exactly what I need. Just happened that apple produces a device that fits my needs. If I ever see anything that fits my bill but is cheaper, I would take it in a second. I don't have any brand loyalty. Switched from olympus, to nikon to sony - if you into photography you will get it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    There are 3 kind of people when talking about Apple: 1- fanatics who support Apple, 2-fanatics who hate Apple and think you cannot like it, 3- and finally those who just look at the product without thinking about the brand but what you can do with the product (if it suits your needs or not). It seems like you are that third kind of person.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    You're supporting manipulative evil business practices.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Don't get people that upset by using microsoft or google products. It something about apple that makes people quite unhinged.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (8 children)

    Uhh no. If you think that, you're not paying attention at all. Most of the main feed of Lemmy is raging at Google right now and Microsoft is only catching a break because Bill Gates recently got together with ultra wealthy people writing a letter asking to be taxed.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Not the companies the users of their products.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (6 children)

    We've been pushing people to lessen their reliance on Google for ages now. We've even been developing a replacement software store Suite called FUTO! The difference between Apple and Google though, is that Apple's users continue on despite Apple being so very obviously evil. Google is at least being a creep about it.

    https://youtu.be/CjOJJc1qzdY?si=xQw-qEnQ5HxDum4d

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Love that you yourself used a youtube link. I find it very interesting how judgmental people almost always put themselves outside the measures they apply to other people.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    That's where I find Louis Rossmann and his audience.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You are ok with people who repair macbooks but not with people who own macbooks, the plot thickens.

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