▲ 53 ▼ iPhone app sideloading: Apple reportedly plans to charge fees and review apps downloaded outside of the App Store - 9to5Mac (9to5mac.com) submitted 2 years ago by misk@sopuli.xyz to c/apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world 26 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Nogami@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Anyone who didn’t see this coming? It was pretty obvious they’ll never ever allow unlimited side loading. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] amzd@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well the new system will be way worse than current sideloading (which just requires a reinstall once a year) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Once a year if you have a paid developer account, which is $100/year. It’s otherwise every 7 days and capped at 3 simultaneous apps*. And in either case you need a Mac or Windows machine available as well. I suspect it’ll be an improvement for anyone without a paid developer account. * - At least, according to https://sideloadly.io/ - I haven’t touched sideloading for a few years (with AltStore + AltServer). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] amzd@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You’re assuming you won’t need a dev account for this new system? Or is that confirmed somewhere permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It’s an educated inference - I don’t believe that requiring a paid dev account to sideload would satisfy the EU, and I don’t think a system that requires a paid dev account would be meaningfully different from the current state of things. But then again, I will be surprised if the EU allows Apple to charge a commission on fees related to apps distributed outside their store, and they’re doing that anyway, so who knows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] amzd@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not to sideload, to develop an app. Right now you can develop an app and allow it to 100(I think) people to sideload it for a year permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Are you talking about them installing it via Testflight? Regardless, I would not expect the $100 annual fee for developers to go away permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] amzd@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I mean; add their UDID to your account > build app > distribute over the internet for them to sideload permalink fedilink source parent
[–] amzd@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well the new system will be way worse than current sideloading (which just requires a reinstall once a year) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Once a year if you have a paid developer account, which is $100/year. It’s otherwise every 7 days and capped at 3 simultaneous apps*. And in either case you need a Mac or Windows machine available as well. I suspect it’ll be an improvement for anyone without a paid developer account. * - At least, according to https://sideloadly.io/ - I haven’t touched sideloading for a few years (with AltStore + AltServer). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] amzd@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You’re assuming you won’t need a dev account for this new system? Or is that confirmed somewhere permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It’s an educated inference - I don’t believe that requiring a paid dev account to sideload would satisfy the EU, and I don’t think a system that requires a paid dev account would be meaningfully different from the current state of things. But then again, I will be surprised if the EU allows Apple to charge a commission on fees related to apps distributed outside their store, and they’re doing that anyway, so who knows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] amzd@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not to sideload, to develop an app. Right now you can develop an app and allow it to 100(I think) people to sideload it for a year permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Are you talking about them installing it via Testflight? Regardless, I would not expect the $100 annual fee for developers to go away permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] amzd@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I mean; add their UDID to your account > build app > distribute over the internet for them to sideload permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Once a year if you have a paid developer account, which is $100/year. It’s otherwise every 7 days and capped at 3 simultaneous apps*. And in either case you need a Mac or Windows machine available as well. I suspect it’ll be an improvement for anyone without a paid developer account. * - At least, according to https://sideloadly.io/ - I haven’t touched sideloading for a few years (with AltStore + AltServer). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] amzd@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You’re assuming you won’t need a dev account for this new system? Or is that confirmed somewhere permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It’s an educated inference - I don’t believe that requiring a paid dev account to sideload would satisfy the EU, and I don’t think a system that requires a paid dev account would be meaningfully different from the current state of things. But then again, I will be surprised if the EU allows Apple to charge a commission on fees related to apps distributed outside their store, and they’re doing that anyway, so who knows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] amzd@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not to sideload, to develop an app. Right now you can develop an app and allow it to 100(I think) people to sideload it for a year permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Are you talking about them installing it via Testflight? Regardless, I would not expect the $100 annual fee for developers to go away permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] amzd@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I mean; add their UDID to your account > build app > distribute over the internet for them to sideload permalink fedilink source parent
[–] amzd@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You’re assuming you won’t need a dev account for this new system? Or is that confirmed somewhere permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It’s an educated inference - I don’t believe that requiring a paid dev account to sideload would satisfy the EU, and I don’t think a system that requires a paid dev account would be meaningfully different from the current state of things. But then again, I will be surprised if the EU allows Apple to charge a commission on fees related to apps distributed outside their store, and they’re doing that anyway, so who knows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] amzd@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not to sideload, to develop an app. Right now you can develop an app and allow it to 100(I think) people to sideload it for a year permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Are you talking about them installing it via Testflight? Regardless, I would not expect the $100 annual fee for developers to go away permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] amzd@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I mean; add their UDID to your account > build app > distribute over the internet for them to sideload permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It’s an educated inference - I don’t believe that requiring a paid dev account to sideload would satisfy the EU, and I don’t think a system that requires a paid dev account would be meaningfully different from the current state of things. But then again, I will be surprised if the EU allows Apple to charge a commission on fees related to apps distributed outside their store, and they’re doing that anyway, so who knows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] amzd@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not to sideload, to develop an app. Right now you can develop an app and allow it to 100(I think) people to sideload it for a year permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Are you talking about them installing it via Testflight? Regardless, I would not expect the $100 annual fee for developers to go away permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] amzd@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I mean; add their UDID to your account > build app > distribute over the internet for them to sideload permalink fedilink source parent
[–] amzd@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not to sideload, to develop an app. Right now you can develop an app and allow it to 100(I think) people to sideload it for a year permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Are you talking about them installing it via Testflight? Regardless, I would not expect the $100 annual fee for developers to go away permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] amzd@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I mean; add their UDID to your account > build app > distribute over the internet for them to sideload permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Are you talking about them installing it via Testflight? Regardless, I would not expect the $100 annual fee for developers to go away permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] amzd@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I mean; add their UDID to your account > build app > distribute over the internet for them to sideload permalink fedilink source parent
[–] amzd@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I mean; add their UDID to your account > build app > distribute over the internet for them to sideload permalink fedilink source parent