▲ 53 ▼ iPhone app sideloading: Apple reportedly plans to charge fees and review apps downloaded outside of the App Store - 9to5Mac (9to5mac.com) submitted 2 years ago by misk@sopuli.xyz to c/apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world 26 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (3 children) I should be able to run any software I see fit on a piece of hardware I own without a corporation acting as a gatekeeper. I hope the EU finds this unacceptable because it’s frankly bullshit. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Rascabin@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Android has entered the chat. But yeah, the closed iOS experience is why i stay away from Apple. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) To be most specific, LineageOS (open source Android) on a Google Pixel phone. Google's Pixel hardware is open. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago Yes but if you want the truly free "this is my hardware, keep your corpo hands off of it" experience, then Pixel phones with FOSS OS is the way to go. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HubertManne@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) even the modem? I was under the impression that cellular modems where the thing keeping a truly free phone being made. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Pretty sure grapheneos has binary blobs for all the firmware, SOC/modem, camera, Bluetooth etc. nothing they can do since the manufacturers only release binary blobs and by the time it could be reversed engineered it would be obsolete permalink fedilink source parent [+] Nogami@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) If this is a priority, buy different hardware. You never purchased an iOS or iPadOS device with Apple promising unlimited side loading. And speaking of which, unless you’re a member of the EU, no sideload for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I know all this, still want Apple to get dragged kicking and screaming to a place that’s not so damned anticompetitive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nogami@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago I feel that you’re just trying to stick it to Apple and thus have discredited any comments you might make on the topic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rho50@lemmy.nz 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a power user, I find Apple’s approach to sideloading insulting as a customer and blatantly anticompetitive. I buy an Apple phone because the phone market is effectively a duopoly: Android or iOS. I choose iOS over Android because of its much longer security support window and better accessory ecosystem (AirPods Pro + Apple Watch in particular), and also because I don’t want absolutely everything in my life to be owned by Google. None of that detracts from the fact that Apple’s position on this issue hurts its customers and is fucking annoying. And their claims of “it’s for security” are disingenuous at best. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nogami@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh well. You gotta decide which is more important to you. Seems that you won’t get both. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rho50@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but I should be able to have both. We used to have both, and it was taken from us by monopolistic megacorps. So, I accept that the situation is what it is, but I’m allowed to be pissed off about it. I’m also allowed to support regulations that would force Apple to give their users options. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nogami@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You’ll be asking for an honest politician next. Wishful thinking. permalink fedilink source parent [+] HubertManne@kbin.social -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) lol. you think you own your technology. how cute. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago TIL you can be a snob by acknowledging that EULAs exist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rascabin@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Android has entered the chat. But yeah, the closed iOS experience is why i stay away from Apple. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) To be most specific, LineageOS (open source Android) on a Google Pixel phone. Google's Pixel hardware is open. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago Yes but if you want the truly free "this is my hardware, keep your corpo hands off of it" experience, then Pixel phones with FOSS OS is the way to go. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HubertManne@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) even the modem? I was under the impression that cellular modems where the thing keeping a truly free phone being made. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Pretty sure grapheneos has binary blobs for all the firmware, SOC/modem, camera, Bluetooth etc. nothing they can do since the manufacturers only release binary blobs and by the time it could be reversed engineered it would be obsolete permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) To be most specific, LineageOS (open source Android) on a Google Pixel phone. Google's Pixel hardware is open. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] lud@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago Yes but if you want the truly free "this is my hardware, keep your corpo hands off of it" experience, then Pixel phones with FOSS OS is the way to go. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HubertManne@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) even the modem? I was under the impression that cellular modems where the thing keeping a truly free phone being made. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Pretty sure grapheneos has binary blobs for all the firmware, SOC/modem, camera, Bluetooth etc. nothing they can do since the manufacturers only release binary blobs and by the time it could be reversed engineered it would be obsolete permalink fedilink source parent
[+] lud@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago Yes but if you want the truly free "this is my hardware, keep your corpo hands off of it" experience, then Pixel phones with FOSS OS is the way to go. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago Yes but if you want the truly free "this is my hardware, keep your corpo hands off of it" experience, then Pixel phones with FOSS OS is the way to go. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) even the modem? I was under the impression that cellular modems where the thing keeping a truly free phone being made. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Pretty sure grapheneos has binary blobs for all the firmware, SOC/modem, camera, Bluetooth etc. nothing they can do since the manufacturers only release binary blobs and by the time it could be reversed engineered it would be obsolete permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Pretty sure grapheneos has binary blobs for all the firmware, SOC/modem, camera, Bluetooth etc. nothing they can do since the manufacturers only release binary blobs and by the time it could be reversed engineered it would be obsolete permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Nogami@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) If this is a priority, buy different hardware. You never purchased an iOS or iPadOS device with Apple promising unlimited side loading. And speaking of which, unless you’re a member of the EU, no sideload for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I know all this, still want Apple to get dragged kicking and screaming to a place that’s not so damned anticompetitive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nogami@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago I feel that you’re just trying to stick it to Apple and thus have discredited any comments you might make on the topic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rho50@lemmy.nz 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a power user, I find Apple’s approach to sideloading insulting as a customer and blatantly anticompetitive. I buy an Apple phone because the phone market is effectively a duopoly: Android or iOS. I choose iOS over Android because of its much longer security support window and better accessory ecosystem (AirPods Pro + Apple Watch in particular), and also because I don’t want absolutely everything in my life to be owned by Google. None of that detracts from the fact that Apple’s position on this issue hurts its customers and is fucking annoying. And their claims of “it’s for security” are disingenuous at best. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nogami@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh well. You gotta decide which is more important to you. Seems that you won’t get both. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rho50@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but I should be able to have both. We used to have both, and it was taken from us by monopolistic megacorps. So, I accept that the situation is what it is, but I’m allowed to be pissed off about it. I’m also allowed to support regulations that would force Apple to give their users options. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nogami@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You’ll be asking for an honest politician next. Wishful thinking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I know all this, still want Apple to get dragged kicking and screaming to a place that’s not so damned anticompetitive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nogami@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago I feel that you’re just trying to stick it to Apple and thus have discredited any comments you might make on the topic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nogami@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago I feel that you’re just trying to stick it to Apple and thus have discredited any comments you might make on the topic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rho50@lemmy.nz 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a power user, I find Apple’s approach to sideloading insulting as a customer and blatantly anticompetitive. I buy an Apple phone because the phone market is effectively a duopoly: Android or iOS. I choose iOS over Android because of its much longer security support window and better accessory ecosystem (AirPods Pro + Apple Watch in particular), and also because I don’t want absolutely everything in my life to be owned by Google. None of that detracts from the fact that Apple’s position on this issue hurts its customers and is fucking annoying. And their claims of “it’s for security” are disingenuous at best. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nogami@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh well. You gotta decide which is more important to you. Seems that you won’t get both. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rho50@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but I should be able to have both. We used to have both, and it was taken from us by monopolistic megacorps. So, I accept that the situation is what it is, but I’m allowed to be pissed off about it. I’m also allowed to support regulations that would force Apple to give their users options. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nogami@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You’ll be asking for an honest politician next. Wishful thinking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nogami@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh well. You gotta decide which is more important to you. Seems that you won’t get both. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rho50@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but I should be able to have both. We used to have both, and it was taken from us by monopolistic megacorps. So, I accept that the situation is what it is, but I’m allowed to be pissed off about it. I’m also allowed to support regulations that would force Apple to give their users options. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nogami@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You’ll be asking for an honest politician next. Wishful thinking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rho50@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but I should be able to have both. We used to have both, and it was taken from us by monopolistic megacorps. So, I accept that the situation is what it is, but I’m allowed to be pissed off about it. I’m also allowed to support regulations that would force Apple to give their users options. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nogami@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You’ll be asking for an honest politician next. Wishful thinking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nogami@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You’ll be asking for an honest politician next. Wishful thinking. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] HubertManne@kbin.social -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) lol. you think you own your technology. how cute. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago TIL you can be a snob by acknowledging that EULAs exist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago TIL you can be a snob by acknowledging that EULAs exist. permalink fedilink source parent