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Cycling is ten times more important than electric cars for reaching net-zero cities
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this post was submitted on 21 Jan 2024
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Cycling is not the solution. It's infrastructure.
I would love a walkable city. But I can't afford housing close to the city. The bus or train system isn't strong enough or convenient enough. Our country are set up for cars. Housing prices are set up for people to drive further to live.
Have affordable housing near the places I work and I won't need to drive. Stop blaming people for living their lives around a broken infrastructure. Stop cramming bicycles down our throats. We are not the problem.
Then what is the problem?
And who built the infrastructure?
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"we" is used very liberally here. I had no say in the planning, implementation, or even the allocation of funds for the current infrastructure. In fact, most of it has existed since before I was born.
You’ve also been able to vote in a few local elections along the way, yeah? Where I’m at there are often candidates who champion bicycle infrastructure, and it’s not a new phenomenon. More often than not they’re mocked and not elected. I imagine my city isn’t unique in that.
So yea, WE are to blame.
Sure, I'm to blame for being outvoted. Thanks. Fuck you too.
It’s not a personal attack on your character. It’s fact. Grow the fuck up.
I'm sure a lot of things existed before you were born.
There were also a lot of things that didn't exist before you were born.
Change da world, my final message. Good bye.
I'm sick of people blaming the people. I'm sick of people trying to shove bicycles down our throats like THAT will fix the issue.
My comment was in response to the blaming of the people and pushing cycling as the solution. This article should be, how do we influence better zoming laws. How we do improve the city infrastructure.
We do vote. Every election cycle. We do what we can with our few voices.
The sooner we stop upvoting these shit articles the sooner we can fix the actual issue.
Yeah cars aren’t part of the solution at all
Cars are just the "effect" of the "cause". Vote in your local elections for better zoning laws and stop upvoting these shit articles that blame the people.
We won’t fix the problem until they are gone
I mean, with that logic, if 1/2 of the world population didn't eat and just died, that would also fix the problem too. But that isn't going to happen so your statement is as dumb as mine.
Put a ban in place for 2030 or 2035 and it will be fixed
If you don’t do that then everything will be designed with the existence of cars in mind
Even today they are building new roads, you go to a sub division and there are roads in front of every house
So people like me who can't afford a job near my work have to ride a bicycle for 40 miles one-way for my work because someone in the past made home zoning impossible to scale the population growth.
Please tell me why I have to suffer and those fuckers who is camping in those expensive unattainable homes get to enjoy their home values?
Why do you want people like me to suffer more than I already do by having to drive 80 miles a day?
The point is you won’t fix that if there are cars
Why would you suffer from an issue that only exists because of cars if there weren’t cars?
I disagree. Plenty of countries have converted highways to bike lanes successfully and continued using their cars.
As his concern points out why that won’t work
How many of those countries are as wide as us
They certainly are, they just need to go around city centers instead of through. Cars make a ton of sense for longer trips (way better than an empty bus), they don't make sense downtown.