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Why is it people who hoard wealth and use that wealth to hoard more wealth by fucking as many people as possible always get this dismissive "eh of course they do shrug," - but as soon as somebody finds wealth and is like "how can I do something useful with this" then uses that wealth to start a food bank and fund water/energy projects for needy communities we gotta spend our day breaking down how they're evil and sus?
Because people who get this rich do it by exploiting the poor. They aren't going to turn around and be nice. People who get this rich start as absolute shit bags. They remain the same after.
... that doesn't answer the question they asked.
Did you literally not even manage to read a whole one paragraph comment before responding?
My brother in Christ he's a fucking YouTuber. If you don't want to be in a video, say no. 🤷
Of course for all this screeching about exploitation I'd happily put down $50 that says you wouldn't turn down a free car because you "don't want to be exploited."
Go tell the people in the 21 counties of NC his food pantry travels to that they're being exploited and see what they think of your hot take. Or are you one of those "feeding people robs them of their bootstraps" types?
You can feed people and do good things while exploiting them to further your notoriety and wealth. These are not mutually exclusive. It is perfect acceptable to be turned off or even disgusted by someone shoving a camera into every situation to extract some kind of profit from it along with self-aggrandizement, even if some of those profits are returned to the community that helped generate those profits as a "good deed".
Don't let ideals get in the way of good. While what you say is true, he could literally help no one if he hadn't followed this business model. He wouldn't have the cash. His videos bring in more cash which can help more people. Yes he makes money too but its more distasteful to me to be someone like you who prefers less people get help if someone else profits from it than it is to be someone like him who helps more people than you are and also makes money from it.
A bit rich for you to be saying his way is wrong when you probably haven't ponyed up your own cash to help even a fraction of the people. The world you want to exist does not. Everything has a cost. Id rather people do some good in exchange for that cost than wish everyone did everything for free which incentivizes no one to do anything.
I don't watch him. His videos don't really appeal for me but I recognize the good that can be done in such a format.
That’s a fat lie for you to say that I prefer people not be helped.
Where’s your cash dump to the poor?
You read what you wanted and made the rest up. It is also possible be disgusted with someone’s approach and still understand it helps people.
rounds back to original point of how somebody who does literally anything with their wealth gets this huge tirade about how they're evil but the richer YouTubers and actual billionaires face no real critique.
It really is weird how a millionaire who runs a food bank and funds various infrastructure projects is more villainous to people than billionaires who play every corporate greed trick in the book, and I'm tired of people acting like it's not.
You’re not wrong. But that doesn’t mean we have to accept relentless self-promotion either. You also forget he’s still gonna be rich, barring financial disaster. Gonna point your finger at him when he’s done with YouTube, sitting in a 10k sq ft mansion with a garage full of exotics? If we want to point fingers I’d be willing to be lt a bunch of those “actual billionaires” engage in a lot of philanthropy without sticking their identity in front of a camera telling you about it at every turn?
This stuff smacks of evangelical prosperity gospel. Just give me money so I can do the lord’s work and drive to the church in my Lambo, except there’s nobody controlling a gateway to Heaven, just a mention and a shout out to top donors in a video.
You didn't answer my question.
Why do billionaires who do a fraction of a fraction of what he does get a free pass to actively steal economic activity from their workers and customers because their product isn't content - but somebody whose business is creating something of value (content) who pays his people reasonably and also does good for people needs to be be taken down at every turn and shat on at every opportunity?
Corporate apologism at its finest, right here. The only true evil is making money via creating a popular product instead of stealing the economic value of those who create a product for you because you already had all the capital to start with. Infinite corporate greed is good because it's private, using your money and platform to help people is evil because they do it in the open.
GTFO
Nobody is giving them a free pass. You're the only one suggesting that. We're discussing the weather and you keep jumping in and yelling the sky is blue. No shit, sherlock, but we're discussing the weather. Don't you get it? You're the only person saying that. We're talking about Mr Beast, and all you keep saying is What about all those other people? I don't give a shit about them because we're talking about Mr Beast. You're the guy that keeps jumping into the conversation and trying to change the subject to make it about something else. You're nuts or completely live under a rock if you think lemmy/reddit/fediverse doesn't shit on billionaires regularly, doesn't discuss wealth inequality, doesn't point out ostentatious displays of wealth. Do other billionaires get a pass? NO. Now let us continue our discussion without having to be reminded about something we already know.
"Bad" rich people are dismissed because Lemmy users expect this behavior of them. What they don't expect or believe in is someone genuinely using their wealth for good.
"If God is all powerful, he cannot be all good. And if he is all good, then he cannot be all powerful"