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Here's what telegram's founder say about Whatsapp's privacy (graph.org)
submitted 2 years ago* by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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This is an article written by telegram's founder and CEO Pavel Durov in 2019 on "Why whatsapp will never be secure". Your thoughts?

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[–] 54 points 2 years ago (11 children)

What a load of hipocrisy. The dude uses unauthenticated DH for his apps "secret chats", which a bored student with a laptop can MITM in seconds. Other chats use just TLS, meaning they get to read EVERYTHING.

Use Signal, people.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    which a bored student with a laptop can MITM in seconds

    No, how can a bored student breach e2ee in seconds? note that no such cases have been reported by any telegram user so far.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

    Because the DH is unauthenticated, as I already said. Users can't report it because there is no way to tell for them.

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Users can’t report it because there is no way to tell for them

    Atleast the one who breached can tell? no telegram users data have been seen on dark web yet, no person/org have claimed to get any vulnerability in their system. Also if its that easy to breach why govt's keep banning telegram for not giving them userdata? despite telegram is the biggest app where most terrorist orgs operate, hub of piracy and illegal things, you can call it "public" darkweb.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The data is available. See this article - it's a Google link.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 2 years ago

    That article literally praises telegram despite being non e2ee by default, authorities can only get ip address and phone number from it (those are public info already and both of them could be avoided by using voip amd paid VPNs), that just proves how solid mtproto have become. Also they are saying one can see your telegram message when they are physically logged in your account for which the Russian authorities took the help of their ISP, in that case its not telegrams fault, set up 2fa on your account or use VoIP.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Check stories about russian journalists..

    I have some friends working in the police, many years they showed me how they can read messages of like anyone on telegram I was trying to tell people to stop using telegram for years, but now at least therecs some conversation is going on because of the journalists

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 2 years ago

    I have tried to google, most of them were assumptions or russian agencies using ISPs to login to their account in which case its not telegrams fault. Can you provide a substantial proof?

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