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That's 1.1% of Gaza's population killed in just 3 month!
Israel has killed more civilians in 2 months than Russia has killed in 2 years.
Let that sink in.
I think worse is all the killings happening that barely get reported at all.
Sudan? Hundreds of thousands of deaths. Bunch of black people killing other black people. No clicks or views in that. Ongoing, incidentally.
Jews and Muslims killing each other? Everyone seems to love picking a side there.
I agree. The Western world could actually help innocent people in these regions, but have convinced themselves that "browns need to solve their own problems."
"But Hamas" - Israel
Ukraine doesn't use human shield tactics, and Ukraine population density is like 100 times less than Gaza's. So that might explain some of it. But the wars are completely different in many other ways as well. In Ukraine there are clear front lines, and Ukraine has been successful in not letting Russia completely screw over every part of their country, at a huge cost in soldier deaths. The cities where Russia did invade are shot to hell and civilian massacre figures are similar to Gaza.
If we speak about morality, Russia was not threatened by Ukraine, whereas Israel is constantly being threatened by Hamas and many of its neighbors. Ukraine did not start the war, Russia did in 2014. Hamas started the war against Israel.
Also, Hamas is not reporting how many of those 22,600 were combatants. It's certainly not all of them, but is certainly more than 0.
We're gonna find more than that died due to the nightmarish health and sanitation conditions caused by. IDF bombing hospitals, if what I've heard about the outbreak of dysentery and hepatitis is right.
~~Dunno how you calculated that, but if the 22600 figure is correct, it's 2.8%. Gaza population is currently 800,636 (edit I guess this is could be an estimate, not an exact figure). Still growing even with this war, apparently.~~ edit2 <= junk figures based on shit source I guess.
Against Palestine population it's 0.4%.
Does Hamas report itself how many of its soldiers are in that 22600, or is it claiming that all of these fatalities are actual civilians?
The 22,600 figure is most likely a severe underestimate of the people murdered by occupation forces in Gaza (and elsewhere, because they've been murdering people in the West Bank and Lebanon as well). I shared this in another comment but The Lancet published this which determined there was no evidence that the Gaza Ministry of Health is inflating these statistics, if anything they are being under reported.
As for how many are "actual civilians" the way that is being reported currently heavily favors the narrative of the occupation because the assumption is simply that all males over the age of 13 are combatants, and even using this absurd framing around 61% of those killed are women and children. The occupation forces have proportionately killed more journalists and UN aid workers than in any other conflict in recent history.
History will judge Israel and its supporters harshly.
Sure, perhaps, but the number of Hamas deaths is certainly higher than 0. Would be interesting to know the actual number, however impossible such a figure is to get in this situation.
Eh. We'll see.
It's 2 million according to this: https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/gaza-strip/
Ok, my source was perhaps fucked.
1.1% is about the same as Bucha.