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At least in the US. Hopefully other countries do better.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Canada does not do better. We are really good at blaming the victim and allowing drunk drivers to be repeat offenders. Shit, where I moved away from there were people lobbying to increase the legal BH limit.

This is why driving should be by profession only and very regulated IMO.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Any other heavy machinery generally needs a license and regular recertification that requires you to basically take the test again. And anywhere you'd be operating generally has other people who have also undergone their own safety trsining. But giant 1-ton metal machines that go on public roads co-occupied by random pedestrians? Just come round every so often so we can give you a new ID.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, it's insane how we allow people- even literal children- to operate heavy machinery that kills thousands every year with only a basic understanding and minimal experience.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not only that, but the most common area to train in is the very same roads everyone is using. There are no facilities where you can go and learn under controlled conditions and supervison, for most people you near the end of your teens and an adult gives you some keys after you past a written exam.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, depending on your location. In the North East U.S. you definitely can take a professional driving course. There is a program called "In Control: Crash prevention".

I first took that class as an EMT through my ambulance job. But, it is open to the public. I brought my 17 y/o son to the class shortly after he got his license.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes these services exist, but they are not required to get a lisence, and that is part of the problem, there is no centralized regulatory body controlling the training drivers recieve if any.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Fair point. That level of class that we took should be required.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

dude, .04 is a joke and an excuse for police to harass. MADD ceased being about safety and has been money generation for decades now. This all has been a classic case of imposing new laws instead of simply enforcing the old ones, like gun control and some other things i can think of.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The legal limit is .08 in most places. It should be 0. There should be no alcohol in anyone's blood stream when they are driving, no exceptions.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're as poorly informed as you are clever.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because I don't think people should be allowed to drive drunk?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Neither do I, but that's not the point you've been making. You're still poorly informed on the laws, spreading misinformation mixed with what you want things to be

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How am I spreading misinformation? Generally speaking the legal limit is .08 in Canada.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

.04 is the general rule now, and this is not uncommon knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

According to my provinces website it is a range between .04 and .08.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I know, why are you telling me what I was bringing to your attention?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're telling me I am wrong and spreading misinformation when it says on the website I am not wrong. If I am wrong so are you.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You gibbering idiot, you were making the claim .04 wasn't a thing before.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I never did, I said generally the limit is .08 and that is the truth. I concede that I was unaware it was a limit range, but you claimed the limit was .04, which is either just as wrong as my initial number or just as right.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago

It is most places. You seriously have no idea what you're talking about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yup it's rampant here, thinking I might move to Montreal.