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Fear Mongering About Range Anxiety Has To Stop — CT Governor Calls Out EV Opponents::Several state governors are fighting fear mongering as they attempt to reduce transportation emissions in their states.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That is my biggest concern also. I need 500 miles on a charge. I live 200 miles from my family, and will often drive up and back in a day for holidays and birthdays. But I also will drive a state or two away to visit extended family, I am not going attempt those drives with 250 mile range.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Have you looked at where charging stations are? Chances are, there’s a station somewhere along your route. And even if there isn’t, you’re going to someone house? Bring a portable charger and plug in the car.

There are very few places you can’t drive without being able to find a charger if you plan ahead a little.

Edit: Not to mention, how often are you making these drives? You talk as if it’s happening every day, but that’s half your waking day in driving.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention, how often are you making these drives?

This is always the point in the EVangelizing where the person doing it loses me.

The whole point of the objection, whatever it is, is that it's a way the person uses their car that happens often enough, to them, that it's a concern. A rebuttal based on "well how important is that, really?" isn't an argument against an ICE at that point, it's essentially just an argument saying, "You're wrong for wanting that.", which is basically presuming that one knows better than that person what that person finds to be important.

Even if they're only making this drive once a year, it's clearly important to them that the vehicle they own is capable of handling it at least as smoothly as an ICE. If an EV can't do that, it's just a shortcoming of EVs for that person, end of story. It doesn't make the EV suddenly immune to that criticism to suggest they just not make that trip or rent a vehicle that can do it when that time comes. It's a way they are currently using their vehicle, and a way in which they want to use whatever vehicle they own in the future. If a certain vehicle can't do that, it's a shortcoming that is worth noting and accepting.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If I make a drive across country once a year, is that something I should base my car purchase around? That’s about as silly as purchasing a truck because I intend to move in the next 10 years.

The point isn’t “how important is that” it’s “why are you not thinking of alternatives.”

No one said you have to make a 500 mile drive in a single go, but the constraint is being put there artificially. It would be like me saying “I cant get behind an ICE because a single tank only takes me 400 miles and I need to drive 500 miles once a year.”

And the other aspect, is that if you’re truly unable to find a route that handles charging? Rent a vehicle that handles that edge case. Just like you rent a moving truck instead of buying a moving truck because you’re going to move.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

You're still missing the point. Are you really claiming that most people who go on long trips once a year haven't thought about renting or flying? Or that they're unaware of those alternatives? They're reasonable alternatives even with an owned ICE car - do you want to throw 3,000+ miles on your car vs a rental?

Presumably there's reasons they drive an owned car vs renting or flying already.

Look, let me try an analogy I've beaten my head against for a decade or more - do you use Windows on your computer? Why haven't you switched to Linux? It's better in almost every way - it's free, it's user controlled, it doesn't break / have patches forcing reboots monthly, it runs on older computers better for longer, etc etc etc. Now think of why you (probably) don't use Linux. It doesn't run Microsoft Office. It doesn't run your games. It doesn't do whatever that Windows does. Is my response that - "well, you shouldn't play games on your PC, you should have a game console, or rent time via remote control, or just you know - why are playing games important" actually compelling to you? Now apply that to cars and driving long distances.