▲ 216 ▼ ...So I Finally Quit Spotify (oliviarafferty.substack.com) submitted 2 years ago by ooli@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 156 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Osa-Eris-Xero512@kbin.social 108 points 2 years ago (13 children) Fellas, is it petty to refuse to support Nazis? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Viewing a website doesn't mean supporting the website. Especially if you use an adblocker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* Linking to their content and posting it here does, because it spreads that garbage around permalink fedilink source parent [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -2 points 2 years ago (10 children) If you have an adblocker, and you're not visiting any of those nazi sites directly, but do derail a comment section about a totally unrelated article? I say it is, yeah. Then again, I can be pretty petty about circlejerks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (6 children) I wouldn't really call it a circlejerk to be against people who publish and profit from Nazi material. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -3 points 2 years ago (5 children) The person who wrote the article we're supposed to be discussing in here is at least 2 degrees away from the nazis. At what point does it become circlejerk? The Lemmy instance you're on is linking to a substack and is collecting donations, but you seem to be fine with that. So I guess the threshold is 3 degrees? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) I have nothing against the author of this article. I do have something against Substack. It really is that simple. If this article is posted somewhere else I'll read it. If this Lemmy instance had a bunch of Nazi content and the admins said they wanted to keep it up, then I'd block this instance. I wouldn't try to rationalise it by saying "oh well it's not like all the content is Nazi content..." Again, it really is that simple. If you're fine with supporting a platform that welcomes Nazis with open arms, fine, you do you. It's a personal choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -5 points 2 years ago (3 children) If you’re fine with supporting a platform that welcomes Nazis with open arms, fine, you do you. Now you're basically implying that I'm a Nazi-sympathiser. I find that a cheap tactic and highly offensive. That's my issues with these kind of oversimplifications and guilty-by-association-fallacies. Before you know it, everyone is Hitler. I'm not supporting anyone here. I read an article about Spotify on a blog, nobody gained any measurable financial worth from that. I don't think we're going to find a common ground here. Have nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You sure are bending over backwards in order to defend Nazi publishers and Nazi collaborators. It’s hard to see you as anything other than a Nazi sympathizer yourself. You are the company you keep. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 1 point 2 years ago If Olivia Rafferty here (they only one I defended) is a nazi collaborator, then sure, by your logic, I must be too. And thanks to the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon, you're one too. Congratulations. At this point the term has lost all meaning, and we're all nazis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I'm not calling you a nazi sympathiser at all. I said it's fine and you should do you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) If I’m going to travel to a certain city I’m not going to stay in the hotel that’s hosting the Nazi convention. Here you are saying “yeesh it’s not like the convention will be inside your room!” But there are other hotels - simple as that. You act like a person needs some much better, really, really good reason not to read this article. If the site hosts Nazi content, that’s quite enough for me to just scroll to the next post. Why do any of us need to convince you or anyone else why this small act of conscience is valid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You definitely don't have to. But if you were actually trying to, let me assure you that equating the reading of a harmless blog post to paying a hotel would not have done the trick. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Then you can’t understand analogies. Because you patronize a hotel by staying there, and you patronize a website by visiting it. The differences in their business models are immaterial to the comparison. But I can tell quite clearly you’re determined not to understand any of this so I’ll just stop there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Viewing a website doesn't mean supporting the website. Especially if you use an adblocker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* Linking to their content and posting it here does, because it spreads that garbage around permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* Linking to their content and posting it here does, because it spreads that garbage around permalink fedilink source parent
[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -2 points 2 years ago (10 children) If you have an adblocker, and you're not visiting any of those nazi sites directly, but do derail a comment section about a totally unrelated article? I say it is, yeah. Then again, I can be pretty petty about circlejerks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (6 children) I wouldn't really call it a circlejerk to be against people who publish and profit from Nazi material. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -3 points 2 years ago (5 children) The person who wrote the article we're supposed to be discussing in here is at least 2 degrees away from the nazis. At what point does it become circlejerk? The Lemmy instance you're on is linking to a substack and is collecting donations, but you seem to be fine with that. So I guess the threshold is 3 degrees? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) I have nothing against the author of this article. I do have something against Substack. It really is that simple. If this article is posted somewhere else I'll read it. If this Lemmy instance had a bunch of Nazi content and the admins said they wanted to keep it up, then I'd block this instance. I wouldn't try to rationalise it by saying "oh well it's not like all the content is Nazi content..." Again, it really is that simple. If you're fine with supporting a platform that welcomes Nazis with open arms, fine, you do you. It's a personal choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -5 points 2 years ago (3 children) If you’re fine with supporting a platform that welcomes Nazis with open arms, fine, you do you. Now you're basically implying that I'm a Nazi-sympathiser. I find that a cheap tactic and highly offensive. That's my issues with these kind of oversimplifications and guilty-by-association-fallacies. Before you know it, everyone is Hitler. I'm not supporting anyone here. I read an article about Spotify on a blog, nobody gained any measurable financial worth from that. I don't think we're going to find a common ground here. Have nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You sure are bending over backwards in order to defend Nazi publishers and Nazi collaborators. It’s hard to see you as anything other than a Nazi sympathizer yourself. You are the company you keep. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 1 point 2 years ago If Olivia Rafferty here (they only one I defended) is a nazi collaborator, then sure, by your logic, I must be too. And thanks to the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon, you're one too. Congratulations. At this point the term has lost all meaning, and we're all nazis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I'm not calling you a nazi sympathiser at all. I said it's fine and you should do you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) If I’m going to travel to a certain city I’m not going to stay in the hotel that’s hosting the Nazi convention. Here you are saying “yeesh it’s not like the convention will be inside your room!” But there are other hotels - simple as that. You act like a person needs some much better, really, really good reason not to read this article. If the site hosts Nazi content, that’s quite enough for me to just scroll to the next post. Why do any of us need to convince you or anyone else why this small act of conscience is valid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You definitely don't have to. But if you were actually trying to, let me assure you that equating the reading of a harmless blog post to paying a hotel would not have done the trick. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Then you can’t understand analogies. Because you patronize a hotel by staying there, and you patronize a website by visiting it. The differences in their business models are immaterial to the comparison. But I can tell quite clearly you’re determined not to understand any of this so I’ll just stop there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (6 children) I wouldn't really call it a circlejerk to be against people who publish and profit from Nazi material. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -3 points 2 years ago (5 children) The person who wrote the article we're supposed to be discussing in here is at least 2 degrees away from the nazis. At what point does it become circlejerk? The Lemmy instance you're on is linking to a substack and is collecting donations, but you seem to be fine with that. So I guess the threshold is 3 degrees? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) I have nothing against the author of this article. I do have something against Substack. It really is that simple. If this article is posted somewhere else I'll read it. If this Lemmy instance had a bunch of Nazi content and the admins said they wanted to keep it up, then I'd block this instance. I wouldn't try to rationalise it by saying "oh well it's not like all the content is Nazi content..." Again, it really is that simple. If you're fine with supporting a platform that welcomes Nazis with open arms, fine, you do you. It's a personal choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -5 points 2 years ago (3 children) If you’re fine with supporting a platform that welcomes Nazis with open arms, fine, you do you. Now you're basically implying that I'm a Nazi-sympathiser. I find that a cheap tactic and highly offensive. That's my issues with these kind of oversimplifications and guilty-by-association-fallacies. Before you know it, everyone is Hitler. I'm not supporting anyone here. I read an article about Spotify on a blog, nobody gained any measurable financial worth from that. I don't think we're going to find a common ground here. Have nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You sure are bending over backwards in order to defend Nazi publishers and Nazi collaborators. It’s hard to see you as anything other than a Nazi sympathizer yourself. You are the company you keep. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 1 point 2 years ago If Olivia Rafferty here (they only one I defended) is a nazi collaborator, then sure, by your logic, I must be too. And thanks to the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon, you're one too. Congratulations. At this point the term has lost all meaning, and we're all nazis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I'm not calling you a nazi sympathiser at all. I said it's fine and you should do you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -3 points 2 years ago (5 children) The person who wrote the article we're supposed to be discussing in here is at least 2 degrees away from the nazis. At what point does it become circlejerk? The Lemmy instance you're on is linking to a substack and is collecting donations, but you seem to be fine with that. So I guess the threshold is 3 degrees? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) I have nothing against the author of this article. I do have something against Substack. It really is that simple. If this article is posted somewhere else I'll read it. If this Lemmy instance had a bunch of Nazi content and the admins said they wanted to keep it up, then I'd block this instance. I wouldn't try to rationalise it by saying "oh well it's not like all the content is Nazi content..." Again, it really is that simple. If you're fine with supporting a platform that welcomes Nazis with open arms, fine, you do you. It's a personal choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -5 points 2 years ago (3 children) If you’re fine with supporting a platform that welcomes Nazis with open arms, fine, you do you. Now you're basically implying that I'm a Nazi-sympathiser. I find that a cheap tactic and highly offensive. That's my issues with these kind of oversimplifications and guilty-by-association-fallacies. Before you know it, everyone is Hitler. I'm not supporting anyone here. I read an article about Spotify on a blog, nobody gained any measurable financial worth from that. I don't think we're going to find a common ground here. Have nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You sure are bending over backwards in order to defend Nazi publishers and Nazi collaborators. It’s hard to see you as anything other than a Nazi sympathizer yourself. You are the company you keep. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 1 point 2 years ago If Olivia Rafferty here (they only one I defended) is a nazi collaborator, then sure, by your logic, I must be too. And thanks to the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon, you're one too. Congratulations. At this point the term has lost all meaning, and we're all nazis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I'm not calling you a nazi sympathiser at all. I said it's fine and you should do you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) I have nothing against the author of this article. I do have something against Substack. It really is that simple. If this article is posted somewhere else I'll read it. If this Lemmy instance had a bunch of Nazi content and the admins said they wanted to keep it up, then I'd block this instance. I wouldn't try to rationalise it by saying "oh well it's not like all the content is Nazi content..." Again, it really is that simple. If you're fine with supporting a platform that welcomes Nazis with open arms, fine, you do you. It's a personal choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -5 points 2 years ago (3 children) If you’re fine with supporting a platform that welcomes Nazis with open arms, fine, you do you. Now you're basically implying that I'm a Nazi-sympathiser. I find that a cheap tactic and highly offensive. That's my issues with these kind of oversimplifications and guilty-by-association-fallacies. Before you know it, everyone is Hitler. I'm not supporting anyone here. I read an article about Spotify on a blog, nobody gained any measurable financial worth from that. I don't think we're going to find a common ground here. Have nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You sure are bending over backwards in order to defend Nazi publishers and Nazi collaborators. It’s hard to see you as anything other than a Nazi sympathizer yourself. You are the company you keep. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 1 point 2 years ago If Olivia Rafferty here (they only one I defended) is a nazi collaborator, then sure, by your logic, I must be too. And thanks to the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon, you're one too. Congratulations. At this point the term has lost all meaning, and we're all nazis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I'm not calling you a nazi sympathiser at all. I said it's fine and you should do you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -5 points 2 years ago (3 children) If you’re fine with supporting a platform that welcomes Nazis with open arms, fine, you do you. Now you're basically implying that I'm a Nazi-sympathiser. I find that a cheap tactic and highly offensive. That's my issues with these kind of oversimplifications and guilty-by-association-fallacies. Before you know it, everyone is Hitler. I'm not supporting anyone here. I read an article about Spotify on a blog, nobody gained any measurable financial worth from that. I don't think we're going to find a common ground here. Have nice day. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You sure are bending over backwards in order to defend Nazi publishers and Nazi collaborators. It’s hard to see you as anything other than a Nazi sympathizer yourself. You are the company you keep. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 1 point 2 years ago If Olivia Rafferty here (they only one I defended) is a nazi collaborator, then sure, by your logic, I must be too. And thanks to the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon, you're one too. Congratulations. At this point the term has lost all meaning, and we're all nazis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I'm not calling you a nazi sympathiser at all. I said it's fine and you should do you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You sure are bending over backwards in order to defend Nazi publishers and Nazi collaborators. It’s hard to see you as anything other than a Nazi sympathizer yourself. You are the company you keep. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 1 point 2 years ago If Olivia Rafferty here (they only one I defended) is a nazi collaborator, then sure, by your logic, I must be too. And thanks to the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon, you're one too. Congratulations. At this point the term has lost all meaning, and we're all nazis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 1 point 2 years ago If Olivia Rafferty here (they only one I defended) is a nazi collaborator, then sure, by your logic, I must be too. And thanks to the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon, you're one too. Congratulations. At this point the term has lost all meaning, and we're all nazis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I'm not calling you a nazi sympathiser at all. I said it's fine and you should do you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) If I’m going to travel to a certain city I’m not going to stay in the hotel that’s hosting the Nazi convention. Here you are saying “yeesh it’s not like the convention will be inside your room!” But there are other hotels - simple as that. You act like a person needs some much better, really, really good reason not to read this article. If the site hosts Nazi content, that’s quite enough for me to just scroll to the next post. Why do any of us need to convince you or anyone else why this small act of conscience is valid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You definitely don't have to. But if you were actually trying to, let me assure you that equating the reading of a harmless blog post to paying a hotel would not have done the trick. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Then you can’t understand analogies. Because you patronize a hotel by staying there, and you patronize a website by visiting it. The differences in their business models are immaterial to the comparison. But I can tell quite clearly you’re determined not to understand any of this so I’ll just stop there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) You definitely don't have to. But if you were actually trying to, let me assure you that equating the reading of a harmless blog post to paying a hotel would not have done the trick. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Then you can’t understand analogies. Because you patronize a hotel by staying there, and you patronize a website by visiting it. The differences in their business models are immaterial to the comparison. But I can tell quite clearly you’re determined not to understand any of this so I’ll just stop there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Then you can’t understand analogies. Because you patronize a hotel by staying there, and you patronize a website by visiting it. The differences in their business models are immaterial to the comparison. But I can tell quite clearly you’re determined not to understand any of this so I’ll just stop there. permalink fedilink source parent