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Defederate lemmynsfw.com? (lemmy.world)
submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world
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The admins on lemmynsfw.com have decided to allow "non-IRL loli", i.e. drawn porn involving children/teenagers. (Post: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/29633).

Irrelevant of the moral issues that this poses, such content is illegal in many countries (e.g the UK). Continuing to federate with lemmynsfw.com will put users at risk of significant legal repercussions.

Please would the admins consider defederating unless lemmynsfw change their policy.

UPDATE: The lemmynsfw admins posted an clarification here: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/29826. My original argument for defederating doesn't stand any more.

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[โ€“] 25 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

Are you the kind of person that says people playing FPS games are more likely to become mass shooters?

It might not be our liking but loli is at worst a victimless crime, not the same as the real pedophiles (eg Epstein's associates, like Prince Andrew). I think by saying they're the same, you're actually belittling the gravity of the other.

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  • [+] -10 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    It's not the assault, violence or having a victim making them a pedophile. It's the attraction to minors. It doesn't matter if fictional or real, they are pedophiles.

    Many of them probably even act in it, e.g. masturbation.

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    It's reprehensible but if they're not really acting on it, as in harming someone else (masturbation, really?), then why should it be a crime and the state be involved? What are you suggesting is that the mere thought of it, involving fictional people at that, should be a crime. Are we certain we want thoughtcrime?

    That sort of vilification only makes them more likely to hide instead of seeking professional help. Why would they, if doing so would open them to ostracization?

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  • [โ€“] -1 points 3 years ago

    You are jumping to conclusions here. Also just thinking of extremes is not helpful. Acting on your desires to perform sexual acts with children is absolutely pedophilic behavior. So masturbating is just that. It is not just a thought, it is an action. Even though non pedophiles don't even have these thoughts without disgust.

    Just ask yourself, would you ever be comfortable leaving a child alone with someone who sexualizes children? My answer would be absolutely not, they are pedophiles and a huge risk to the childs safety.

    How to solve this or manage the risk is another way more complicated topic.

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  • [+] -11 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    This is a really good argument until you learn that mass shooters are less than one in a million but child sexual abusers are more than one in a hundred, despite there being tens of millions of FPS players and probably only hundreds of thousands of CSAM consumers in America. It's a catchy gotcha but it completely fails to hold up under material scrutiny.

    Mass shootings and child sexual abuse are very different things, and so are CSAM and video games. You would benefit from losing some of the reductivism you've got there.

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  • [โ€“] 11 points 3 years ago

    You're actually supporting my point. Despite tens of millions of FPS players, there's only less than one in a million cases of mass shooting. Meanwhile child abuse is more common despite loli stuff being uncommon in US compared to places like Japan. This to me seems like an argument to say there's no correlation between the fictional and real counterparts.

    If anything, being unable to set apart reality from fiction and saying both are the same is the reductionist stance.

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