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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would guess that 80-90% of owners are ignorant (some willfully), or try to separate the man from the company, and not just unrepentant fanboys/girls

But yeah, agree on the fanboy thing. SpaceX too (which personally I find extra unfortunate since they've done some REALLY good things in the LEO launch market and space stuff in general).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how much of SpaceX's success has happened not because of Musk, but despite him

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not even remotely a fan of the guy at this point, but from everything I've read, a lot of it was actually because of him.

Tesla too.

But also a lot of the negative parts of those companies, and failures. And at the Boring Company. And TwitX, etc.

Whatever contributions he's made are rapidly evaporating, though. He had plenty of problems 1015 years ago, but the last 5 have been a massive, rapid slide in his contributions, reputation, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes that must be why SpaceX employs multiple professional handlers whose responsibility it is to distract manchild Mosk with shiny bits whenever he gets close to making an actual decision

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Even if true, someone can both be a piece of work and successful.

Like how a guy can be a complete moron piece of shit AND a top neurosurgeon.

Also that person can be a steadily worse neurosurgeon and become more and more just a moron piece of shit.