▲ 285 ▼ SpaceX blasts FCC as it refuses to reinstate Starlink’s $886 million grant (arstechnica.com) submitted 2 years ago by L4s@lemmy.world [M, B] to c/technology@lemmy.world 119 comments fedilink hide all child comments SpaceX blasts FCC as it refuses to reinstate Starlink’s $886 million grant::FCC doubts ability to provide high-speed, low-latency service in all grant areas.
[–] LWD@lemm.ee 143 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) deleted permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SupraMario@lemmy.world -57 points 2 years ago (5 children) The level of ignorance from you musk haters is hilarious. Starlink has done 100xs more for rural areas than the nearly trillion we gave to the telecoms. Yea musk is a dick but you're ignorant as fuck if you think starlink is a scam. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] czech@low.faux.moe 48 points 2 years ago (2 children) There were a dozen companies that applied for the grant. Musk won by over promising. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cheers@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 years ago (3 children) Not just that, he used star link to manage international relations by suddenly stopping service for Ukraine. He's a "free speech abolitionist" and egotistical megalomaniac that's willing lie about deliverables and take illegal actions because there's been no punishment. Here's punishment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) deleted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brambledog@lemmy.today 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you are expanding the deep state to include regulatory bodies, you are just talking about the state. Can you provide an instance of the state ever hiding the fact that they regulate businesses, or did you just find out that was one of their powers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) deleted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brambledog@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I misunderstood you the first time. I thought you were a musk fan boy claiming the regulators themselves were the deepstate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) deleted permalink fedilink source parent [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) deleted permalink fedilink source parent [+] SupraMario@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago ITAR...look it up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] variaatio@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 years ago* Well he never won in the first place. This is the original final decision of him losing in the first place. What was "won" previously was SpaceX getting short listed as one of the companies to be seriously considered for award. Then followed the actual final full decision checks and SpaceX failed to meet criterion for the subsidy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) If it's not a scam, then they don't need that money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Then neither does any other telecoms that took nearly a trillion dollars and haven't done even half of what starlink has done in under 10 years for rural broadband. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] londos@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Yes. Exactly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago Hey, you're catching on! permalink fedilink source parent [–] shartedchocolate@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Giving government money to muskrat companies is the scam. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Yea...fuck all those people who work on projects that have literally changed humanity for the better.... permalink fedilink source parent [–] thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have you tried gaming on satellite internet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea starlink isn't geo sat. It's Leo and has ping around 20-30ms, basically the same as cable. If you're trying to compare starlink to sat internet of the past, like vianet then you're confused, as they're completely different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you personally have starlink and experience those ping levels? Reports from people online claim higher ping times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Yes, I did, but now have a wired connection through my coop electric company. I don't know where your getting that ping is higher, go look at the /r/starlink subreddit, tons of people post their speeds there. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Marcbmann@lemmy.world -15 points 2 years ago (1 child) People will keep down voting you, but I just wanted to stop in and let you know that there are other people like you who can read. People on Lemmy are leftist AF and their seething hate for Musk clouds their ability to think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea I know, literally SpaceX has helped NASA out a ton and do a lot of ground breaking work, but because musk is involved, they want all of his shit to fail permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) It is genuinely concerning the mentality round here, anything with musk must be bad and no one wants to even consider the possibility it's not. That's certainly not the only subject like that either, people are very clearly basing options on what suits their personal beliefs rather than what is baked up by fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well you know we get that mentality by observing what he does, listening to what he says, seeing who he keeps company with, and paying attention to the demeanor of the people under him. It's not very complicated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cole@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago but you don't pay attention to the actual impacts the companies have. SpaceX gets bashed a lot which is hilarious. There is no argument that SpaceX is bad. Like what, ULA was better? Throwing boosters in the ocean and charging $500 million+ per flight? SpaceX is objectively an amazing achievement that we should all be proud of. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep, waiting for all the bashing of AWS since bezo runs Amazon...the level of hate companies get that are tied to musk in anyway is insane. Musk is a mouth piece and a shit one at that but musk isn't making these companies and doing the work, hundreds of thousands of people are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago And yet HE gets all the money and glory for doing nothing but acting like an asshole. What should happen is that he be removed from all of these compenies and replaced with a competent leader...and no, Musk is NOT a competent leader. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SupraMario@lemmy.world -57 points 2 years ago (5 children) The level of ignorance from you musk haters is hilarious. Starlink has done 100xs more for rural areas than the nearly trillion we gave to the telecoms. Yea musk is a dick but you're ignorant as fuck if you think starlink is a scam. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] czech@low.faux.moe 48 points 2 years ago (2 children) There were a dozen companies that applied for the grant. Musk won by over promising. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cheers@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 years ago (3 children) Not just that, he used star link to manage international relations by suddenly stopping service for Ukraine. He's a "free speech abolitionist" and egotistical megalomaniac that's willing lie about deliverables and take illegal actions because there's been no punishment. Here's punishment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) deleted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brambledog@lemmy.today 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you are expanding the deep state to include regulatory bodies, you are just talking about the state. Can you provide an instance of the state ever hiding the fact that they regulate businesses, or did you just find out that was one of their powers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) deleted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brambledog@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I misunderstood you the first time. I thought you were a musk fan boy claiming the regulators themselves were the deepstate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) deleted permalink fedilink source parent [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) deleted permalink fedilink source parent [+] SupraMario@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago ITAR...look it up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] variaatio@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 years ago* Well he never won in the first place. This is the original final decision of him losing in the first place. What was "won" previously was SpaceX getting short listed as one of the companies to be seriously considered for award. Then followed the actual final full decision checks and SpaceX failed to meet criterion for the subsidy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) If it's not a scam, then they don't need that money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Then neither does any other telecoms that took nearly a trillion dollars and haven't done even half of what starlink has done in under 10 years for rural broadband. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] londos@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Yes. Exactly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago Hey, you're catching on! permalink fedilink source parent [–] shartedchocolate@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Giving government money to muskrat companies is the scam. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Yea...fuck all those people who work on projects that have literally changed humanity for the better.... permalink fedilink source parent [–] thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have you tried gaming on satellite internet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea starlink isn't geo sat. It's Leo and has ping around 20-30ms, basically the same as cable. If you're trying to compare starlink to sat internet of the past, like vianet then you're confused, as they're completely different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you personally have starlink and experience those ping levels? Reports from people online claim higher ping times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Yes, I did, but now have a wired connection through my coop electric company. I don't know where your getting that ping is higher, go look at the /r/starlink subreddit, tons of people post their speeds there. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Marcbmann@lemmy.world -15 points 2 years ago (1 child) People will keep down voting you, but I just wanted to stop in and let you know that there are other people like you who can read. People on Lemmy are leftist AF and their seething hate for Musk clouds their ability to think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea I know, literally SpaceX has helped NASA out a ton and do a lot of ground breaking work, but because musk is involved, they want all of his shit to fail permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) It is genuinely concerning the mentality round here, anything with musk must be bad and no one wants to even consider the possibility it's not. That's certainly not the only subject like that either, people are very clearly basing options on what suits their personal beliefs rather than what is baked up by fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well you know we get that mentality by observing what he does, listening to what he says, seeing who he keeps company with, and paying attention to the demeanor of the people under him. It's not very complicated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cole@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago but you don't pay attention to the actual impacts the companies have. SpaceX gets bashed a lot which is hilarious. There is no argument that SpaceX is bad. Like what, ULA was better? Throwing boosters in the ocean and charging $500 million+ per flight? SpaceX is objectively an amazing achievement that we should all be proud of. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep, waiting for all the bashing of AWS since bezo runs Amazon...the level of hate companies get that are tied to musk in anyway is insane. Musk is a mouth piece and a shit one at that but musk isn't making these companies and doing the work, hundreds of thousands of people are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago And yet HE gets all the money and glory for doing nothing but acting like an asshole. What should happen is that he be removed from all of these compenies and replaced with a competent leader...and no, Musk is NOT a competent leader. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] czech@low.faux.moe 48 points 2 years ago (2 children) There were a dozen companies that applied for the grant. Musk won by over promising. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cheers@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 years ago (3 children) Not just that, he used star link to manage international relations by suddenly stopping service for Ukraine. He's a "free speech abolitionist" and egotistical megalomaniac that's willing lie about deliverables and take illegal actions because there's been no punishment. Here's punishment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) deleted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brambledog@lemmy.today 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you are expanding the deep state to include regulatory bodies, you are just talking about the state. Can you provide an instance of the state ever hiding the fact that they regulate businesses, or did you just find out that was one of their powers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) deleted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brambledog@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I misunderstood you the first time. I thought you were a musk fan boy claiming the regulators themselves were the deepstate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) deleted permalink fedilink source parent [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) deleted permalink fedilink source parent [+] SupraMario@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago ITAR...look it up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] variaatio@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 years ago* Well he never won in the first place. This is the original final decision of him losing in the first place. What was "won" previously was SpaceX getting short listed as one of the companies to be seriously considered for award. Then followed the actual final full decision checks and SpaceX failed to meet criterion for the subsidy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cheers@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 years ago (3 children) Not just that, he used star link to manage international relations by suddenly stopping service for Ukraine. He's a "free speech abolitionist" and egotistical megalomaniac that's willing lie about deliverables and take illegal actions because there's been no punishment. Here's punishment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) deleted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brambledog@lemmy.today 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you are expanding the deep state to include regulatory bodies, you are just talking about the state. Can you provide an instance of the state ever hiding the fact that they regulate businesses, or did you just find out that was one of their powers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) deleted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brambledog@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I misunderstood you the first time. I thought you were a musk fan boy claiming the regulators themselves were the deepstate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) deleted permalink fedilink source parent [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) deleted permalink fedilink source parent [+] SupraMario@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago ITAR...look it up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LWD@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) deleted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brambledog@lemmy.today 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you are expanding the deep state to include regulatory bodies, you are just talking about the state. Can you provide an instance of the state ever hiding the fact that they regulate businesses, or did you just find out that was one of their powers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) deleted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brambledog@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I misunderstood you the first time. I thought you were a musk fan boy claiming the regulators themselves were the deepstate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) deleted permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brambledog@lemmy.today 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you are expanding the deep state to include regulatory bodies, you are just talking about the state. Can you provide an instance of the state ever hiding the fact that they regulate businesses, or did you just find out that was one of their powers? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) deleted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brambledog@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I misunderstood you the first time. I thought you were a musk fan boy claiming the regulators themselves were the deepstate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) deleted permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) deleted permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brambledog@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I misunderstood you the first time. I thought you were a musk fan boy claiming the regulators themselves were the deepstate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) deleted permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brambledog@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think I misunderstood you the first time. I thought you were a musk fan boy claiming the regulators themselves were the deepstate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) deleted permalink fedilink source parent
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[+] SupraMario@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago ITAR...look it up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] variaatio@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 years ago* Well he never won in the first place. This is the original final decision of him losing in the first place. What was "won" previously was SpaceX getting short listed as one of the companies to be seriously considered for award. Then followed the actual final full decision checks and SpaceX failed to meet criterion for the subsidy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) If it's not a scam, then they don't need that money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Then neither does any other telecoms that took nearly a trillion dollars and haven't done even half of what starlink has done in under 10 years for rural broadband. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] londos@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Yes. Exactly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago Hey, you're catching on! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Then neither does any other telecoms that took nearly a trillion dollars and haven't done even half of what starlink has done in under 10 years for rural broadband. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] londos@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Yes. Exactly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago Hey, you're catching on! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago Hey, you're catching on! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shartedchocolate@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Giving government money to muskrat companies is the scam. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Yea...fuck all those people who work on projects that have literally changed humanity for the better.... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Yea...fuck all those people who work on projects that have literally changed humanity for the better.... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have you tried gaming on satellite internet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea starlink isn't geo sat. It's Leo and has ping around 20-30ms, basically the same as cable. If you're trying to compare starlink to sat internet of the past, like vianet then you're confused, as they're completely different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you personally have starlink and experience those ping levels? Reports from people online claim higher ping times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Yes, I did, but now have a wired connection through my coop electric company. I don't know where your getting that ping is higher, go look at the /r/starlink subreddit, tons of people post their speeds there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea starlink isn't geo sat. It's Leo and has ping around 20-30ms, basically the same as cable. If you're trying to compare starlink to sat internet of the past, like vianet then you're confused, as they're completely different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you personally have starlink and experience those ping levels? Reports from people online claim higher ping times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Yes, I did, but now have a wired connection through my coop electric company. I don't know where your getting that ping is higher, go look at the /r/starlink subreddit, tons of people post their speeds there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Do you personally have starlink and experience those ping levels? Reports from people online claim higher ping times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Yes, I did, but now have a wired connection through my coop electric company. I don't know where your getting that ping is higher, go look at the /r/starlink subreddit, tons of people post their speeds there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Yes, I did, but now have a wired connection through my coop electric company. I don't know where your getting that ping is higher, go look at the /r/starlink subreddit, tons of people post their speeds there. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Marcbmann@lemmy.world -15 points 2 years ago (1 child) People will keep down voting you, but I just wanted to stop in and let you know that there are other people like you who can read. People on Lemmy are leftist AF and their seething hate for Musk clouds their ability to think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea I know, literally SpaceX has helped NASA out a ton and do a lot of ground breaking work, but because musk is involved, they want all of his shit to fail permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) It is genuinely concerning the mentality round here, anything with musk must be bad and no one wants to even consider the possibility it's not. That's certainly not the only subject like that either, people are very clearly basing options on what suits their personal beliefs rather than what is baked up by fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well you know we get that mentality by observing what he does, listening to what he says, seeing who he keeps company with, and paying attention to the demeanor of the people under him. It's not very complicated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cole@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago but you don't pay attention to the actual impacts the companies have. SpaceX gets bashed a lot which is hilarious. There is no argument that SpaceX is bad. Like what, ULA was better? Throwing boosters in the ocean and charging $500 million+ per flight? SpaceX is objectively an amazing achievement that we should all be proud of. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep, waiting for all the bashing of AWS since bezo runs Amazon...the level of hate companies get that are tied to musk in anyway is insane. Musk is a mouth piece and a shit one at that but musk isn't making these companies and doing the work, hundreds of thousands of people are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago And yet HE gets all the money and glory for doing nothing but acting like an asshole. What should happen is that he be removed from all of these compenies and replaced with a competent leader...and no, Musk is NOT a competent leader. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea I know, literally SpaceX has helped NASA out a ton and do a lot of ground breaking work, but because musk is involved, they want all of his shit to fail permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) It is genuinely concerning the mentality round here, anything with musk must be bad and no one wants to even consider the possibility it's not. That's certainly not the only subject like that either, people are very clearly basing options on what suits their personal beliefs rather than what is baked up by fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well you know we get that mentality by observing what he does, listening to what he says, seeing who he keeps company with, and paying attention to the demeanor of the people under him. It's not very complicated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cole@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago but you don't pay attention to the actual impacts the companies have. SpaceX gets bashed a lot which is hilarious. There is no argument that SpaceX is bad. Like what, ULA was better? Throwing boosters in the ocean and charging $500 million+ per flight? SpaceX is objectively an amazing achievement that we should all be proud of. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep, waiting for all the bashing of AWS since bezo runs Amazon...the level of hate companies get that are tied to musk in anyway is insane. Musk is a mouth piece and a shit one at that but musk isn't making these companies and doing the work, hundreds of thousands of people are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago And yet HE gets all the money and glory for doing nothing but acting like an asshole. What should happen is that he be removed from all of these compenies and replaced with a competent leader...and no, Musk is NOT a competent leader. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) It is genuinely concerning the mentality round here, anything with musk must be bad and no one wants to even consider the possibility it's not. That's certainly not the only subject like that either, people are very clearly basing options on what suits their personal beliefs rather than what is baked up by fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well you know we get that mentality by observing what he does, listening to what he says, seeing who he keeps company with, and paying attention to the demeanor of the people under him. It's not very complicated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cole@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago but you don't pay attention to the actual impacts the companies have. SpaceX gets bashed a lot which is hilarious. There is no argument that SpaceX is bad. Like what, ULA was better? Throwing boosters in the ocean and charging $500 million+ per flight? SpaceX is objectively an amazing achievement that we should all be proud of. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep, waiting for all the bashing of AWS since bezo runs Amazon...the level of hate companies get that are tied to musk in anyway is insane. Musk is a mouth piece and a shit one at that but musk isn't making these companies and doing the work, hundreds of thousands of people are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago And yet HE gets all the money and glory for doing nothing but acting like an asshole. What should happen is that he be removed from all of these compenies and replaced with a competent leader...and no, Musk is NOT a competent leader. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well you know we get that mentality by observing what he does, listening to what he says, seeing who he keeps company with, and paying attention to the demeanor of the people under him. It's not very complicated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cole@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago but you don't pay attention to the actual impacts the companies have. SpaceX gets bashed a lot which is hilarious. There is no argument that SpaceX is bad. Like what, ULA was better? Throwing boosters in the ocean and charging $500 million+ per flight? SpaceX is objectively an amazing achievement that we should all be proud of. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cole@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago but you don't pay attention to the actual impacts the companies have. SpaceX gets bashed a lot which is hilarious. There is no argument that SpaceX is bad. Like what, ULA was better? Throwing boosters in the ocean and charging $500 million+ per flight? SpaceX is objectively an amazing achievement that we should all be proud of. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep, waiting for all the bashing of AWS since bezo runs Amazon...the level of hate companies get that are tied to musk in anyway is insane. Musk is a mouth piece and a shit one at that but musk isn't making these companies and doing the work, hundreds of thousands of people are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago And yet HE gets all the money and glory for doing nothing but acting like an asshole. What should happen is that he be removed from all of these compenies and replaced with a competent leader...and no, Musk is NOT a competent leader. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago And yet HE gets all the money and glory for doing nothing but acting like an asshole. What should happen is that he be removed from all of these compenies and replaced with a competent leader...and no, Musk is NOT a competent leader. permalink fedilink source parent