▲ 750 ▼ US breaks record for most mass shootings in single year after weekend murders (www.theguardian.com) submitted 2 years ago by TokenBoomer@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 170 comments fedilink hide all child comments TheGuardian.com
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 73 points 2 years ago (4 children) YEAH! WE DID IT AMERICA! U.S.A! U.S.A.! U.S.A! All these senseless murders every fucking year, and not one of them directed at the republicans that have ruined everything. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (4 children) It's conservatives doing the shootings. Why does it seem that 95% of all mass shooters have a white supremacist manifesto? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] sploosh@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago Because white supremacists' arguments are easily dismantled to their core components of idiocy, racism and ignorance. They can't convince anyone who isn't a moron racist and they believe that those who don't think like they do are trying to replace them so they resort to mass murder. Because they are racist morons. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Media bias. Seriously, when talking about this people use different definitions of "mass shooting" depending on what fits their agenda. If we're talking about the "nutter shoots up a public place" type shootings, then those caused about 1400 deaths between the middle of 1964 and the middle of 2021 based on numbers posted by WaPo. If you define it as "any shooting with more than three dead" then the numbers go way up but a huge chunk of that is gang violence and family annihilators (people who murder-suicide their family). These are different kinds of problems that need to be treated differently. And neither of those is going to respond much to gun control laws. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Haywire@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago You had me until your last sentence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago different definitions of “mass shooting” The definition by the FBI is the only one I've seen. What number works for you? permalink fedilink source parent [+] quo@feddit.uk -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip -6 points 2 years ago Finally somebody with brain. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -16 points 2 years ago (2 children) mostly the media focus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, yes, it's all a lie, that you see through, because YOU are not gullible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -9 points 2 years ago Next. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Over 80% of mass shootings by white supremacists is not media focus. You have to skew your media consumption a lot to think violence comes from the left in the US. Beware of the media bias arguments, they are mostly used by biased media. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well thats just a lie permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) More or less, it's white supremacists related so it gives a bigger number making the article look more impressive (while still showing the propaganda we should fight against). I wanted to see if you were gonna try to check my claims but that's not how your brain works. That's why you end up thinking you're on the right side of history by fighting people on the left. Go out there and challenge your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are so full of shit and you know it. I've no need to prove an obvious lie is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Or don't challenge them, your choice, at this point I've pretty much given up on your bunch, it makes me too sad and strangers on the Internet don't deserve that effect on me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) "my bunch" can you think in anything but stereotypes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Disprove them by attempting to disprove me with actual data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago sure. actual data says not 80 percent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Hey it happened once. He couldn't shoot for shit, but someone tried... permalink fedilink source parent [–] linuxdweeb@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) This feels fucked up to write, but incels shooting women/children/non-whites is probably better than having lefties/righties shooting each other. That's how you actually get a civil war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah. Lets let the perpetrators encouraging mass shootings continue to get off scott free while actively enraging their base with falsehoods. That'll totally prevent a civil war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] linuxdweeb@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Lets let the perpetrators encouraging mass shootings continue to get off scott free while actively enraging their base with falsehoods. Is there a /c/insanepeoplelemmy yet? permalink fedilink source parent [+] quo@feddit.uk -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (4 children) It's conservatives doing the shootings. Why does it seem that 95% of all mass shooters have a white supremacist manifesto? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] sploosh@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago Because white supremacists' arguments are easily dismantled to their core components of idiocy, racism and ignorance. They can't convince anyone who isn't a moron racist and they believe that those who don't think like they do are trying to replace them so they resort to mass murder. Because they are racist morons. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Media bias. Seriously, when talking about this people use different definitions of "mass shooting" depending on what fits their agenda. If we're talking about the "nutter shoots up a public place" type shootings, then those caused about 1400 deaths between the middle of 1964 and the middle of 2021 based on numbers posted by WaPo. If you define it as "any shooting with more than three dead" then the numbers go way up but a huge chunk of that is gang violence and family annihilators (people who murder-suicide their family). These are different kinds of problems that need to be treated differently. And neither of those is going to respond much to gun control laws. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Haywire@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago You had me until your last sentence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago different definitions of “mass shooting” The definition by the FBI is the only one I've seen. What number works for you? permalink fedilink source parent [+] quo@feddit.uk -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip -6 points 2 years ago Finally somebody with brain. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -16 points 2 years ago (2 children) mostly the media focus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, yes, it's all a lie, that you see through, because YOU are not gullible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -9 points 2 years ago Next. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Over 80% of mass shootings by white supremacists is not media focus. You have to skew your media consumption a lot to think violence comes from the left in the US. Beware of the media bias arguments, they are mostly used by biased media. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well thats just a lie permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) More or less, it's white supremacists related so it gives a bigger number making the article look more impressive (while still showing the propaganda we should fight against). I wanted to see if you were gonna try to check my claims but that's not how your brain works. That's why you end up thinking you're on the right side of history by fighting people on the left. Go out there and challenge your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are so full of shit and you know it. I've no need to prove an obvious lie is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Or don't challenge them, your choice, at this point I've pretty much given up on your bunch, it makes me too sad and strangers on the Internet don't deserve that effect on me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) "my bunch" can you think in anything but stereotypes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Disprove them by attempting to disprove me with actual data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago sure. actual data says not 80 percent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago Because white supremacists' arguments are easily dismantled to their core components of idiocy, racism and ignorance. They can't convince anyone who isn't a moron racist and they believe that those who don't think like they do are trying to replace them so they resort to mass murder. Because they are racist morons. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Media bias. Seriously, when talking about this people use different definitions of "mass shooting" depending on what fits their agenda. If we're talking about the "nutter shoots up a public place" type shootings, then those caused about 1400 deaths between the middle of 1964 and the middle of 2021 based on numbers posted by WaPo. If you define it as "any shooting with more than three dead" then the numbers go way up but a huge chunk of that is gang violence and family annihilators (people who murder-suicide their family). These are different kinds of problems that need to be treated differently. And neither of those is going to respond much to gun control laws. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Haywire@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago You had me until your last sentence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago different definitions of “mass shooting” The definition by the FBI is the only one I've seen. What number works for you? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Haywire@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago You had me until your last sentence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago different definitions of “mass shooting” The definition by the FBI is the only one I've seen. What number works for you? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] quo@feddit.uk -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip -6 points 2 years ago Finally somebody with brain. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip -6 points 2 years ago Finally somebody with brain. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -16 points 2 years ago (2 children) mostly the media focus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, yes, it's all a lie, that you see through, because YOU are not gullible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -9 points 2 years ago Next. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Over 80% of mass shootings by white supremacists is not media focus. You have to skew your media consumption a lot to think violence comes from the left in the US. Beware of the media bias arguments, they are mostly used by biased media. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well thats just a lie permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) More or less, it's white supremacists related so it gives a bigger number making the article look more impressive (while still showing the propaganda we should fight against). I wanted to see if you were gonna try to check my claims but that's not how your brain works. That's why you end up thinking you're on the right side of history by fighting people on the left. Go out there and challenge your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are so full of shit and you know it. I've no need to prove an obvious lie is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Or don't challenge them, your choice, at this point I've pretty much given up on your bunch, it makes me too sad and strangers on the Internet don't deserve that effect on me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) "my bunch" can you think in anything but stereotypes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Disprove them by attempting to disprove me with actual data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago sure. actual data says not 80 percent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, yes, it's all a lie, that you see through, because YOU are not gullible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -9 points 2 years ago Next. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Over 80% of mass shootings by white supremacists is not media focus. You have to skew your media consumption a lot to think violence comes from the left in the US. Beware of the media bias arguments, they are mostly used by biased media. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well thats just a lie permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) More or less, it's white supremacists related so it gives a bigger number making the article look more impressive (while still showing the propaganda we should fight against). I wanted to see if you were gonna try to check my claims but that's not how your brain works. That's why you end up thinking you're on the right side of history by fighting people on the left. Go out there and challenge your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are so full of shit and you know it. I've no need to prove an obvious lie is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Or don't challenge them, your choice, at this point I've pretty much given up on your bunch, it makes me too sad and strangers on the Internet don't deserve that effect on me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) "my bunch" can you think in anything but stereotypes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Disprove them by attempting to disprove me with actual data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago sure. actual data says not 80 percent. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well thats just a lie permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) More or less, it's white supremacists related so it gives a bigger number making the article look more impressive (while still showing the propaganda we should fight against). I wanted to see if you were gonna try to check my claims but that's not how your brain works. That's why you end up thinking you're on the right side of history by fighting people on the left. Go out there and challenge your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are so full of shit and you know it. I've no need to prove an obvious lie is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Or don't challenge them, your choice, at this point I've pretty much given up on your bunch, it makes me too sad and strangers on the Internet don't deserve that effect on me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) "my bunch" can you think in anything but stereotypes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Disprove them by attempting to disprove me with actual data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago sure. actual data says not 80 percent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) More or less, it's white supremacists related so it gives a bigger number making the article look more impressive (while still showing the propaganda we should fight against). I wanted to see if you were gonna try to check my claims but that's not how your brain works. That's why you end up thinking you're on the right side of history by fighting people on the left. Go out there and challenge your beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are so full of shit and you know it. I've no need to prove an obvious lie is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Or don't challenge them, your choice, at this point I've pretty much given up on your bunch, it makes me too sad and strangers on the Internet don't deserve that effect on me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) "my bunch" can you think in anything but stereotypes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Disprove them by attempting to disprove me with actual data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago sure. actual data says not 80 percent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are so full of shit and you know it. I've no need to prove an obvious lie is permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Or don't challenge them, your choice, at this point I've pretty much given up on your bunch, it makes me too sad and strangers on the Internet don't deserve that effect on me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) "my bunch" can you think in anything but stereotypes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Disprove them by attempting to disprove me with actual data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago sure. actual data says not 80 percent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Or don't challenge them, your choice, at this point I've pretty much given up on your bunch, it makes me too sad and strangers on the Internet don't deserve that effect on me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) "my bunch" can you think in anything but stereotypes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Disprove them by attempting to disprove me with actual data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago sure. actual data says not 80 percent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) "my bunch" can you think in anything but stereotypes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Disprove them by attempting to disprove me with actual data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago sure. actual data says not 80 percent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Disprove them by attempting to disprove me with actual data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago sure. actual data says not 80 percent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago sure. actual data says not 80 percent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Hey it happened once. He couldn't shoot for shit, but someone tried... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] linuxdweeb@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) This feels fucked up to write, but incels shooting women/children/non-whites is probably better than having lefties/righties shooting each other. That's how you actually get a civil war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah. Lets let the perpetrators encouraging mass shootings continue to get off scott free while actively enraging their base with falsehoods. That'll totally prevent a civil war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] linuxdweeb@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Lets let the perpetrators encouraging mass shootings continue to get off scott free while actively enraging their base with falsehoods. Is there a /c/insanepeoplelemmy yet? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah. Lets let the perpetrators encouraging mass shootings continue to get off scott free while actively enraging their base with falsehoods. That'll totally prevent a civil war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] linuxdweeb@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Lets let the perpetrators encouraging mass shootings continue to get off scott free while actively enraging their base with falsehoods. Is there a /c/insanepeoplelemmy yet? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] linuxdweeb@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Lets let the perpetrators encouraging mass shootings continue to get off scott free while actively enraging their base with falsehoods. Is there a /c/insanepeoplelemmy yet? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] quo@feddit.uk -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent