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France to ban disposable e-cigarettes by 2025 (www.euractiv.com)
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France will ban the selling of single-use e-cigarettes by 2025, French Health Minister Aurélien Rousseau announced on Tuesday during a National Tobacco Control Program (PNLT) presentation, while increasing tobacco taxation.

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[–] 3 points 2 years ago* (8 children)

I wonder what this companies will come up with to replace it. It says single use puffs so maybe the companies will design it to be 2 or 3 use?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I think the single use thing came from taxation law gaps allowing single use vapew to be taxed a lot lower then reusable ones. Not enterily sure anymore

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's not a tax gap or loop hole. That's intentional, lobbied by tobacco companies, so they can sell us their e-waste.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    How does that make the tobacco company more money though? Juuls were cartridge based with reusable batteries and the rise of disposables seemed to actually follow the downfall of Juuls.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It would be so easy to make the cartridge removable with a thread.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    But that's not wanted and the decision makers are paid by corporations. They have usually (details vary by country) introduced laws to increase price of cheap and not wasteful alternatives via taxes and regulation by up to 5000%, exactly so the same tabacco companies also producing these single use e-cigarettes can push their electronic waste on us instead.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That’s my point. It’s not an engineering issue. But an economic issue.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    No, it's a political one. A lot of people have spend a lot of work (and lobbyists probably paid a lot of money) to bring us to this point.

    Some years ago in Germany there were a lot of people starting with vapes instead of cigarettes. Doing their own coils, mixing their own flavors... so they first restricted premixed liquids containing nicotin. Then they restricted the sizes in which nicoltin shots could be sold. And then (given that a lot of people actually had reduced the nicotin ratio anyway) they threw all "but it's for health reasons"-pretense overboard and are now taxing basic glycerine and propylene glycol bases used for vaping as if they contained nicotin as they could be mixed with some. Meaning that I would have to pay more for 10ml now than for a liter bottle before. And of course buying those freely available liquids used for a lot of other things and using then in my e-cigarette is now tax fraud (and massive one as a 10€ 1 liter bottle now costs about 600€+... all taxes).

    This has nothing to do with economic reason. They intentionally basically banned the economic option, so companies (affiliated with tabacco comapnies) producing that electronic waste could get rid of the competition.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    I'd imagine they'd end up getting done-in by laws on minimum warranties. Vapers would be happy: "Only works 3 times? Sweet, guess I'll use it and get my money back each time."

    (How it would go down in Australia if they tried that.)

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