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During Leverkusens match last saturday their fans showed a banner with the title "There's many music styles - but only two genders" (www.express.de)
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[–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

The person you're replying to is wrong, translating the word as gender makes the most sense here. That said, sex isn't strictly binary ~1.5% of people are intersex, which means when they're born, they don't fit the typical definition of male or female.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    1.5% of people are not intersex. It's closer to about 0.02%

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I got my numbers from Amnesty International.

    Myth 2: Being intersex is very rare

    According to experts, around 1.7% of the population is born with intersex traits – comparable to the number of people born with red hair.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    that means 98.5% of all people have either xx or xy karyotypes, right?

    The discussion always hinges upon disagreements what to do with those 98.5%. Not about what are those 1.5%.

    Thats what I mean.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    In my experience, the conservative side of it tends to be reductive like that, trans advocacy has been getting better at including intersex advocacy as well because the two groups have overlapping needs. I mostly mentioned it because it was interesting and relevent though.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Again, this is all well and good, it just fails to grasp the discourse and tries to establish a topic the other side has no interest in. Its literally miscomunication.

    I'm just sick of all the people talking past each other hoping that if they do it long enough the other side will come back to the debate on their turf which never happens.

    Why do people do that?

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