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During Leverkusens match last saturday their fans showed a banner with the title "There's many music styles - but only two genders" (www.express.de)
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[–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (6 children)

I have a lot of German friends, and it seems really regional but a lot of the country is extremely transphobic.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    How is this specifically transphobic? I understand that this is against non-binary people, but don't trans people want to change from one sex to the other, staying in the original binary selection?

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago

    These right-wing football fans aren't waving this banner to start a gentle discussion about the differences between sex and gender. They're doing it to be provocative and whip up hate against all trans people (including trans men, women and non binary people). It's a shorthand for basically saying trans people are making it all up, designed to laugh at and try and humiliate trans people, which makes it transphobic / hateful in its sentiment. Intentions matter.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago

    Can confirm that it’s mostly regional. Having spent 15 years in northern Germany, all I ever heard on the topic was something like ‘just let people do what they want’.

    Although, and this might be relevant, none of the people I’ve been in contact with are religious or anything of the sort.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Realistically, is there a country that isn't? Maybe Thailand.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago

    I mean here in Sweden I don’t see it too much outside of rural areas. It definitely exists but the status quo is generally fine with it as far as I’ve noticed first hand. I’m not trans though so I’m probably not a reliable authority on the subject.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago

    Meh. Nowadays if you don't want a mtf athlete competing with biological women or children taking life altering hormones at 12 some coward bully will want to justify bashing your head in because they call you "transphobe".

    We gotta stop with the word and actually talk about the issues without threats every 5 seconds. Not that Reddit is the place for that since it's circlejerk-land where anyone who disagrees is a nazi, but you get the point.

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