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Jordan Henderson's Saudi Arabia move felt like a "slap in the face" following his support of the LGBTQ+ community, says UK's only openly gay active male professional footballer Jake Daniels (www.bbc.co.uk)
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[–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (5 children)

But did he come out against violence and organised crime BEFORE he did those things?

I never claimed he wasn't a dick. I claimed comparisons to Henderson were erroneous.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    The comparison holds, Gerrard's reputation is fine despite his ties to organised crime and his own historic offence(s).

    Henderson's hypocrisy vis-a-vis Saudi Arabia does not outweigh that in most people's estimation.

    And if you think insincerely milking a bit of positive PR is worse than assaulting someone, then you need to get out more.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    The comparison doesn't hold. I've already explained why. "Worse" doesn't come into it. It's not relevant to why the comparison is awful.

    "Person says A is a terrible thing and then does A."

    "Person says nothing public about B and then does B."

    I shouldn't have to break it down that basic for you but apparently, you don't get it unless I do.

    "Are Liverpool fans not singing about Steven Gerrard any more?" was the qoute. The inference being that gerrard did bad things and is still a hero so why isn't Henderson? For the reason I just explained.

    It's a terrible, terrible comparison.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    But Henderson hasn't done 'A'. He's just sold out to people who do 'A'.

    Whereas Gerrard has done 'B'. Which is bad regardless of whether or not he's publicly denounced it previously. Because organised crime and physically attacking people is bad by default.

    That's the comparison. Gerrard's reputation is intact because barely anyone gives a shit about the moral dimension of his character. By this same measure, Henderson's will be fine also.

    Your logic is astoundingly moronic. It's like saying Adam Johnson never spoke out against pumping kids so doesn't belong in the same conversation as Henderson.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    But Henderson hasn't done 'A'. He's just sold out to people who do 'A'.

    Thats a semantic argument that I don't think too many people will swallow. You might want to google what tacit agreement means. "I'm not a bigot! I simply espoused equality and then........went to work for bigots. I also spout their PR and say what they tell me to say.....but its totally different!"

    If you buy that, I might interest you in some magic beans.

    Your logic is astoundingly moronic.

    My logic is astoundingly logical. You, however, have skipped too many stops on the logic train.

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  • [–] [B] 1 point 2 years ago

    The worst thing Henderson has done is that he held insincere public positions which he sold out on.

    He's as much or as little of a bigot for this as Ronaldo, Kante, Firmino, et al are. Or anyone who plays for PSG or Newcastle or Man City. Which is to say, not at all.

    How this is worse in your head to physically assaulting someone and being in with organised crime is just a mark of how terminally online you are.

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