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Just a note, German clubs report tickets sold, not actual attendance. I don't know about Spain or Italy, but English clubs report how many people actually came rather than how many tickets were sold.
That's actually not ture English clubs use tickets sold.
The difference is German match tickets are so much cheaper and their public transport is A LOT cheaper. (They own our railways companies and use the profits to subsides there own ticket prices for trains).
DB is subsidized by goverment with billions annually, Abellio the dutch company, that runs trains in scottland also runs trains in germany. This sounds like a conspirency theory to me, would you mind providing a source for it?
The main train companies in England are owned by DB.
Abellio left the uk market and scotrail is now run by the scottish government and their other stuff is now a uk based company.
so did DB, cuz they sold uk arriva business to a us investment fund, now lets hope, that german newspapers don't start asking for refunds on the 1,5 bullion loss they made on that, cuz german taxpayers and consumers paid for it...
Another thing to note about German clubs is their stadiums fit more people in due to standing. This is banned in most other countries and would drastically reduce the average attendance number at all of these clubs.
its attendance in Madrid. which shows perfectly how fucked the ticketing system is. you can’t buy a ticket as a Madridista a week before game because of 40k queue on website, in 20 minutes they are sold out because socios are buying pretty much everything to sell it on 3rd party websites. i was in madrid 2 weeks ago and getting tickets officially was the most depressing and dreadful experience i’ve ever had
They have started to ban that practise in England and makes it much fairer to get in.
Problem in Spain is that if the Presidents do this then they will loose the next election.
In Spain is actual attendance.
English clubs use tickets sold too. I went to Arsenal vs Fulham a few years ago and the stadium was maybe 75% full, yet Arsenal announced the attendance was 59k or something. It was laughably obviously false.