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Wired backhaul options (alien.top)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I'm a home networking newbie and would appreciate any advice folks have. I got my house wired for ethernet, but have some areas I was hoping to improve the wifi for my mobile devices with a wired backhaul setup.

I tried looking through the posts here and it seems like most folks don't recommend going with the mesh systems as it's paying a premium for a wireless backhaul that I wouldn't be using. It also sounds like I shouldn't use any random access points as handoffs between them may not work efficiently. That said, what devices do folks recommend? I saw ubiquity come up a couple times, but wasn't sure if there were cheaper and/or better options?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I really appreciate you taking the time to write this response as it’s very helpful for me too because I’m kind of at the same stage as OP. Just one thing I don’t understand from your explanation. Does the ubiquiti system include this hardware based controller, or will I still need an always on computer running some software? I considering either the dream router plus one access point, or a pair of Asus routers so I can use one in AP mode with AImesh. Right now I don’t have a lot of devices but I’m going to start that journey soon

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Ubiquiti access points have their own hand-off process, and don't require a controller for them to function adequately. I think that Aruba Instant On access points function similarly.

There are some advanced features that would require either a hardware or software controller, but for basic use - you don't need either.

(Though you do have to install and run their software controller for the initial setup of the access points. After that, you can close it down, and only need to run it to check for firmware updates, or make changes to the access points.)

I believe the dream routers come with their network suite built in, so you're probably good there. I will point out that, if you're using the "Dream Router" (UDR) -- the cylindrical router -- it does cap out at 700Mb routed speeds. . . so if you're planning on 1Gb speeds from your ISP. . . the UDR won't handle those speeds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thank you again for this and for letting me know about the dream router’s speed cap. I’ve read a few comments here and there but wasn’t sure if it was just user error or actually true. Right now I have 500 in my house but everyone locally is really pushing gig speed since one of the isp’s recently installed fibre to the house. I like the dream router because I’m reading that it’s better able to handle a lot of smart home devices. It’s just my wife and I so not high demand from us. My current router is getting ancient so it’s time to change and because I want to start adding a number of smart home devices, that seems to be the main criteria for router selection.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

There are other routers in the dream series, such as the UDM Pro, UDM Pro SE, etc. . . but those would be a overkill on a 1Gb service, and they don't have built-in WiFi, so you'd end up needing 2 access points, instead of one.

Most of the more affordable prosumer routers are wired-only. The EdgeRouter-X, TP-Link ER605, and the TrendNet TWG-431BR are affordable, but will cap out around 925-940Mb, give-or-take.

What's going to help with multiple smart home devices isn't so much the router, but the WiFi source that they are connected to.

The so-called high-density access points will probably have the biggest impact on your performance.

The TP-Link EAP620HD (1Gb LAN port) or TP-Link EAP660HD (2.5Gb LAN port) can supposedly handle a ton of clients.

Unifi also has some access points branded as "HD".