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[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Social darwinists seem to forget that selfish species go extinct quite frequently

Also your big bad predators. Wolves, lions, bald eagles, all endangered. Any animal can end up that way. Humans too if we fail to manage our environment correctly.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Also the idea that ancient forests were more productive for humans gives off Christian brain worms vibes

Like yeah we should just get naked and eat apples forever and laugh at God for telling us not to talk to snakes. That's how this reads to me

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, ancient forests were more productive, but it's because humans were collectively managing them, which is something we could actually do in a civilized world...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but the idea you can do that without farming with many billions of people is absurd.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Folks don't talk about that a clusterfuck food production is. Our current population levels are based on extractive agriculture reliant on finite inputs, which is actively killing insect populations. It's killing us long term.

But the alternatives like managed forests and grasslands or agroecology can't feed the number of people currently on the planet, at least not with our current inefficient distribution where half of all food is destroyed.

We need a lower population, and i don't mean this in a eugenicist way. We need levels of development and social welfare where people don't need to have kids to survive. We need access to contraception and reproductive healthcare to the point where people people are having kids out of concious choice. We need avenues for care and community outside of the family. We need education that challenges pro-natal ideologies.

Like, you can't just talk about food.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

Why do they think we developed language instead of claws

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

That's obviously because those species were just all beta males and not alpha chad rugged individualists like me.