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[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 20 points 3 years ago* (16 children) Any form of ultranationalist is a nazi. Any questions? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [+] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -17 points 3 years ago (5 children) No, but you sound like Jeff Tiedrich 😂 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago* (4 children) I'm not american, no idea who he is. Google says some musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (3 children) I just know him as the guy who says "any fucking questions" on Twitter, I'm not American either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) Ahh gotcha. I meant it though it wasn't rhetorical, I will answer questions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) No, I'm fine with that definition, that's a sane use of the term. Part of me thinks we'd be better off reserving "nazi" for those who openly align themselves with the historical group and just use the descriptor "ultranationalist" for modern instances of ultranationalism. Might reduce equivocation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago I think the problem there is that a shit load of people are so uneducated that they don't associate nationalism with the nazis, they only associate the holocaust as the bad thing they did and really don't understand that ultranationalist ideology will lead to a repeat of what occurred over and over again. Thus it becomes much easier to just say nazi when referring to these ultranationalists even though it's technically incorrect when the ultranationalism they support is actually polish, or american, or fucking italian, idk etc etc etc. They're all have pretty much the same goals just in a different set of completely made up lines on a map. permalink fedilink source parent [+] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world -28 points 3 years ago (9 children) So you admit that Antifa are as Nazis like Maga are? Or are rightoids worse for some arbitrary reason again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 23 points 3 years ago* Antifa are not ultranationalists. The vast majority are anarchists and communists, which are internationalist ideologies. Literally the polar opposite. permalink fedilink source parent [+] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -7 points 3 years ago* (7 children) You could call them an authoritarian paramilitary group, but they're not nazis. That doesn't automatically make them good, it's just that nazism is a specific political ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 years ago (6 children) Half of them are anarchists, calling them authoritarian is a grandpa’s facebook-tier understanding of the situation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (5 children) I've yet to meet an anarchist following anything like a coherent ideology in that respect. They all seem very eager to impose themselves on others. I suppose one guy took a more academic position, but still seemed to idolise violence. Maybe the authority is decentralised, but frequently wielded as explicit force. Not far from libertarianism in that regard. Doesn't appeal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago (4 children) What is your solution to prevent nazi rallies? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (3 children) Cluster munitions, for all I care. What's that got to do with anything? I was explaining my use of the word authoritarian. I'd make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so. But my place in society is installing irrigation and water management systems, I have to focus on that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) [reposting this comment, last one apparently never made it over to lemmy.world] What’s that got to do with anything? Stopping nazi rallies is the main thing antifa does. You seem to oppose them doing it. I’d make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so But you’re not. None of us are. So that leaves what other options? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago No, I didn't say that. Perhaps you're thinking of somebody further up the comment chain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago test comment to see if this shows up, the other comment doesn’t permalink fedilink source parent
[+] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -17 points 3 years ago (5 children) No, but you sound like Jeff Tiedrich 😂 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago* (4 children) I'm not american, no idea who he is. Google says some musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (3 children) I just know him as the guy who says "any fucking questions" on Twitter, I'm not American either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) Ahh gotcha. I meant it though it wasn't rhetorical, I will answer questions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) No, I'm fine with that definition, that's a sane use of the term. Part of me thinks we'd be better off reserving "nazi" for those who openly align themselves with the historical group and just use the descriptor "ultranationalist" for modern instances of ultranationalism. Might reduce equivocation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago I think the problem there is that a shit load of people are so uneducated that they don't associate nationalism with the nazis, they only associate the holocaust as the bad thing they did and really don't understand that ultranationalist ideology will lead to a repeat of what occurred over and over again. Thus it becomes much easier to just say nazi when referring to these ultranationalists even though it's technically incorrect when the ultranationalism they support is actually polish, or american, or fucking italian, idk etc etc etc. They're all have pretty much the same goals just in a different set of completely made up lines on a map. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago* (4 children) I'm not american, no idea who he is. Google says some musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (3 children) I just know him as the guy who says "any fucking questions" on Twitter, I'm not American either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) Ahh gotcha. I meant it though it wasn't rhetorical, I will answer questions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) No, I'm fine with that definition, that's a sane use of the term. Part of me thinks we'd be better off reserving "nazi" for those who openly align themselves with the historical group and just use the descriptor "ultranationalist" for modern instances of ultranationalism. Might reduce equivocation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago I think the problem there is that a shit load of people are so uneducated that they don't associate nationalism with the nazis, they only associate the holocaust as the bad thing they did and really don't understand that ultranationalist ideology will lead to a repeat of what occurred over and over again. Thus it becomes much easier to just say nazi when referring to these ultranationalists even though it's technically incorrect when the ultranationalism they support is actually polish, or american, or fucking italian, idk etc etc etc. They're all have pretty much the same goals just in a different set of completely made up lines on a map. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (3 children) I just know him as the guy who says "any fucking questions" on Twitter, I'm not American either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) Ahh gotcha. I meant it though it wasn't rhetorical, I will answer questions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) No, I'm fine with that definition, that's a sane use of the term. Part of me thinks we'd be better off reserving "nazi" for those who openly align themselves with the historical group and just use the descriptor "ultranationalist" for modern instances of ultranationalism. Might reduce equivocation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago I think the problem there is that a shit load of people are so uneducated that they don't associate nationalism with the nazis, they only associate the holocaust as the bad thing they did and really don't understand that ultranationalist ideology will lead to a repeat of what occurred over and over again. Thus it becomes much easier to just say nazi when referring to these ultranationalists even though it's technically incorrect when the ultranationalism they support is actually polish, or american, or fucking italian, idk etc etc etc. They're all have pretty much the same goals just in a different set of completely made up lines on a map. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) Ahh gotcha. I meant it though it wasn't rhetorical, I will answer questions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) No, I'm fine with that definition, that's a sane use of the term. Part of me thinks we'd be better off reserving "nazi" for those who openly align themselves with the historical group and just use the descriptor "ultranationalist" for modern instances of ultranationalism. Might reduce equivocation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago I think the problem there is that a shit load of people are so uneducated that they don't associate nationalism with the nazis, they only associate the holocaust as the bad thing they did and really don't understand that ultranationalist ideology will lead to a repeat of what occurred over and over again. Thus it becomes much easier to just say nazi when referring to these ultranationalists even though it's technically incorrect when the ultranationalism they support is actually polish, or american, or fucking italian, idk etc etc etc. They're all have pretty much the same goals just in a different set of completely made up lines on a map. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) No, I'm fine with that definition, that's a sane use of the term. Part of me thinks we'd be better off reserving "nazi" for those who openly align themselves with the historical group and just use the descriptor "ultranationalist" for modern instances of ultranationalism. Might reduce equivocation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago I think the problem there is that a shit load of people are so uneducated that they don't associate nationalism with the nazis, they only associate the holocaust as the bad thing they did and really don't understand that ultranationalist ideology will lead to a repeat of what occurred over and over again. Thus it becomes much easier to just say nazi when referring to these ultranationalists even though it's technically incorrect when the ultranationalism they support is actually polish, or american, or fucking italian, idk etc etc etc. They're all have pretty much the same goals just in a different set of completely made up lines on a map. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago I think the problem there is that a shit load of people are so uneducated that they don't associate nationalism with the nazis, they only associate the holocaust as the bad thing they did and really don't understand that ultranationalist ideology will lead to a repeat of what occurred over and over again. Thus it becomes much easier to just say nazi when referring to these ultranationalists even though it's technically incorrect when the ultranationalism they support is actually polish, or american, or fucking italian, idk etc etc etc. They're all have pretty much the same goals just in a different set of completely made up lines on a map. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world -28 points 3 years ago (9 children) So you admit that Antifa are as Nazis like Maga are? Or are rightoids worse for some arbitrary reason again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 23 points 3 years ago* Antifa are not ultranationalists. The vast majority are anarchists and communists, which are internationalist ideologies. Literally the polar opposite. permalink fedilink source parent [+] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -7 points 3 years ago* (7 children) You could call them an authoritarian paramilitary group, but they're not nazis. That doesn't automatically make them good, it's just that nazism is a specific political ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 years ago (6 children) Half of them are anarchists, calling them authoritarian is a grandpa’s facebook-tier understanding of the situation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (5 children) I've yet to meet an anarchist following anything like a coherent ideology in that respect. They all seem very eager to impose themselves on others. I suppose one guy took a more academic position, but still seemed to idolise violence. Maybe the authority is decentralised, but frequently wielded as explicit force. Not far from libertarianism in that regard. Doesn't appeal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago (4 children) What is your solution to prevent nazi rallies? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (3 children) Cluster munitions, for all I care. What's that got to do with anything? I was explaining my use of the word authoritarian. I'd make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so. But my place in society is installing irrigation and water management systems, I have to focus on that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) [reposting this comment, last one apparently never made it over to lemmy.world] What’s that got to do with anything? Stopping nazi rallies is the main thing antifa does. You seem to oppose them doing it. I’d make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so But you’re not. None of us are. So that leaves what other options? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago No, I didn't say that. Perhaps you're thinking of somebody further up the comment chain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago test comment to see if this shows up, the other comment doesn’t permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 23 points 3 years ago* Antifa are not ultranationalists. The vast majority are anarchists and communists, which are internationalist ideologies. Literally the polar opposite. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -7 points 3 years ago* (7 children) You could call them an authoritarian paramilitary group, but they're not nazis. That doesn't automatically make them good, it's just that nazism is a specific political ideology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 years ago (6 children) Half of them are anarchists, calling them authoritarian is a grandpa’s facebook-tier understanding of the situation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (5 children) I've yet to meet an anarchist following anything like a coherent ideology in that respect. They all seem very eager to impose themselves on others. I suppose one guy took a more academic position, but still seemed to idolise violence. Maybe the authority is decentralised, but frequently wielded as explicit force. Not far from libertarianism in that regard. Doesn't appeal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago (4 children) What is your solution to prevent nazi rallies? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (3 children) Cluster munitions, for all I care. What's that got to do with anything? I was explaining my use of the word authoritarian. I'd make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so. But my place in society is installing irrigation and water management systems, I have to focus on that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) [reposting this comment, last one apparently never made it over to lemmy.world] What’s that got to do with anything? Stopping nazi rallies is the main thing antifa does. You seem to oppose them doing it. I’d make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so But you’re not. None of us are. So that leaves what other options? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago No, I didn't say that. Perhaps you're thinking of somebody further up the comment chain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago test comment to see if this shows up, the other comment doesn’t permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 years ago (6 children) Half of them are anarchists, calling them authoritarian is a grandpa’s facebook-tier understanding of the situation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (5 children) I've yet to meet an anarchist following anything like a coherent ideology in that respect. They all seem very eager to impose themselves on others. I suppose one guy took a more academic position, but still seemed to idolise violence. Maybe the authority is decentralised, but frequently wielded as explicit force. Not far from libertarianism in that regard. Doesn't appeal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago (4 children) What is your solution to prevent nazi rallies? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (3 children) Cluster munitions, for all I care. What's that got to do with anything? I was explaining my use of the word authoritarian. I'd make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so. But my place in society is installing irrigation and water management systems, I have to focus on that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) [reposting this comment, last one apparently never made it over to lemmy.world] What’s that got to do with anything? Stopping nazi rallies is the main thing antifa does. You seem to oppose them doing it. I’d make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so But you’re not. None of us are. So that leaves what other options? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago No, I didn't say that. Perhaps you're thinking of somebody further up the comment chain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago test comment to see if this shows up, the other comment doesn’t permalink fedilink source parent
[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago (5 children) I've yet to meet an anarchist following anything like a coherent ideology in that respect. They all seem very eager to impose themselves on others. I suppose one guy took a more academic position, but still seemed to idolise violence. Maybe the authority is decentralised, but frequently wielded as explicit force. Not far from libertarianism in that regard. Doesn't appeal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago (4 children) What is your solution to prevent nazi rallies? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (3 children) Cluster munitions, for all I care. What's that got to do with anything? I was explaining my use of the word authoritarian. I'd make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so. But my place in society is installing irrigation and water management systems, I have to focus on that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) [reposting this comment, last one apparently never made it over to lemmy.world] What’s that got to do with anything? Stopping nazi rallies is the main thing antifa does. You seem to oppose them doing it. I’d make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so But you’re not. None of us are. So that leaves what other options? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago No, I didn't say that. Perhaps you're thinking of somebody further up the comment chain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago test comment to see if this shows up, the other comment doesn’t permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago (4 children) What is your solution to prevent nazi rallies? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (3 children) Cluster munitions, for all I care. What's that got to do with anything? I was explaining my use of the word authoritarian. I'd make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so. But my place in society is installing irrigation and water management systems, I have to focus on that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) [reposting this comment, last one apparently never made it over to lemmy.world] What’s that got to do with anything? Stopping nazi rallies is the main thing antifa does. You seem to oppose them doing it. I’d make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so But you’re not. None of us are. So that leaves what other options? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago No, I didn't say that. Perhaps you're thinking of somebody further up the comment chain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago test comment to see if this shows up, the other comment doesn’t permalink fedilink source parent
[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (3 children) Cluster munitions, for all I care. What's that got to do with anything? I was explaining my use of the word authoritarian. I'd make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so. But my place in society is installing irrigation and water management systems, I have to focus on that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) [reposting this comment, last one apparently never made it over to lemmy.world] What’s that got to do with anything? Stopping nazi rallies is the main thing antifa does. You seem to oppose them doing it. I’d make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so But you’re not. None of us are. So that leaves what other options? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago No, I didn't say that. Perhaps you're thinking of somebody further up the comment chain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago test comment to see if this shows up, the other comment doesn’t permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) [reposting this comment, last one apparently never made it over to lemmy.world] What’s that got to do with anything? Stopping nazi rallies is the main thing antifa does. You seem to oppose them doing it. I’d make them illegal, if I were in a position to do so But you’re not. None of us are. So that leaves what other options? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago No, I didn't say that. Perhaps you're thinking of somebody further up the comment chain. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago No, I didn't say that. Perhaps you're thinking of somebody further up the comment chain. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago test comment to see if this shows up, the other comment doesn’t permalink fedilink source parent