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[–] [email protected] 158 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Ma...ma.... Marvel movies are mostly redundant bullshit without even a single relevant thought in them. Just like these mass-produced romcoms, same level. They will probably be the first movies written and produced by inferior AI soon and it won't even make a big difference.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The worst part of Marvel movies is how they expect you to remember everything from every other Marvel movie and TV show going back to Iron Man in 2008. I gave up after a while. I can't keep all of that in my memory and I should be able to skip the ones that are less interesting to me and not get confused in a movie that isn't a sequel to those.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm a big One Piece fan. One piece has thousands of characters many with fleshed out back stories. They all feel fresh and unique and the universe is coherent. But marvel? Most if not all super heroes are interchangeable and the universe makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is not to defend marvel, but 3/4 the women in one piece look exactly like Nami.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That's a perfectly valid criticism of most manga, One Piece included. Especially shonen manga. The "same-face" issue is part of the reason anime and manga have women with crazy hair colors. It's easier to color code a character than give them a distinct face.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, not in the live action. If you'd compare the marvel comics I wonder which would be more diverse...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A one piece will at least flash back when your reintroduced to someone. Bellamy second appearance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One Piece flashes back at least 10 times every god damn episode.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah don't watch the anime. It's terrible. Stick to the manga.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Well I know nothing about One Piece, but the way they do it in Marvel is absurd. I was lucky I had Disney+ at the time and saw Wandavision or the Doctor Strange sequel would have made no sense. And it was shortly after realizing that when I gave up. I honestly don't know why I stayed with it for so long.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ya know, I'm actually okay with that. Up to endgame it wasn't really all that much. You had Ironman x3, GoG x2, Strange x1, Thor x3, Spiderman x1 (x2 if you want to watch the one right after endgame), Captain America x3, Avengers x3, Ant-Man x2, and Black Panther, all of which set you up for endgame. Thats... a grand total of 20 movies, plus the spiderman right after endgame.

Is that a lot? Sure, 40-50 hours. But let one company have a cool, big, tied together place in movies. I liked my invincible comic read. One book, straight through from beginning to end. I also liked when I read through the Marvel Ultimate comics, with about four or five of the serials that I was reading interweaving. I can't think of any other setting that was tied together like that in movies. The closest you'd get would be the television types, with a few hundred episodes.

I'll agree that the tv show styles were too much. I personally couldn't even watch the first trial of those, the agents of shield, right? That first episode was just such terrible writing. I definitely don't want to take that 40-50 hours (over 11 years, too, so that helps) and multiply by exponential scales.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My memory can't handle the intimate details from 20 movies. That's the problem. They make references to things in movies that happened a decade ago and expect people to remember them. So sure, tying them all together can be fun- if you can do it without expecting people to get the constant references. Honestly, I spend half the time in Marvel movies wondering what the fuck they're talking about lately.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Here’s a mnemonic technique that I have found works: Nothing about Marvel movies is worth remembering.

You’re watching the dramatic equivalent of that retouched Ecce Homo painting, a mass media product constructed by Hollywood on top of the palimpsest of the creative output of young Jewish men trying to come to grips with feelings of powerlessness in the aftermath of the Holocaust. Nothing much of the original remains, and it’s not worth looking at, beyond remarking at its absurdity.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

When you strip away the trappings and just look at the scripts, it's incredible how generic all of the dialogue is.

It would be trivial to re-purpose any script to be for any other character because of how little they truly differ.

I'm entirely unconvinced that they haven't already been algorithm -assisted

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

at least then marvel will have a future, for whenever the inferior ai eventually gets replaced with superior ai

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They will probably be the first movies written and produced by inferior AI soon and it won't even make a big difference.

While watching Quantummania I already had a feeling that the entire script was written by ChatGPT.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

MCU are just superhero Hallmark movies