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bro did @everyone in a ~2k member modding server out of fucking nowhere just to say this shit (hexbear.net)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net
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[–] 9 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

What part of my comment gave you the impression I wanted to read a reply about electoralism and demographics?

The person I replied to wrote some ignorant shit, and I replied with a clear counterexample. If the settler guvmint didn't consider AIM a threat, Leonard wouldn't still be in prison.

Or for more recent examples, the settlers wouldn't react so strongly to land defense actions in the last decade (at Mauna Kea, Standing Rock, Line 3, Wet'suet'en lands, etc. etc.) if they didn't consider them threats. The Mexican guvmint & CIA wouldn't've just given organized crime control of Chiapas if the Zapatistas weren't a threat.

This 'it's so far in the past there's no hope now' attitude is just another face of settler genocide denial and absolutely ignorant of the organizing and actions taking place on the ground today.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Decolonization will obviously look different in a white majority settler country like amerikkka and a white minority apartheid country like South Africa, so you can't really point at other examples of decolonization and say "just do that in america."

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    No disagreement there. I don't think I was making the point that decolonizing settler-majority states will look like decolonial efforts in extractive-colonial or minority settler states? All my examples are of actions in the last 50 years that have taken place on so-called north america.

    Just pushing back against this subtle genocide denial of 'too far gone' I see from settlers all the time. It erases both the current decolonial actions and (more grossly IMO) the current and ongoing genocidal actions taking place.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Or for more recent examples, the settlers wouldn't react so strongly to land defense actions in the last decade (at Mauna Kea, Standing Rock, Line 3, Wet'suet'en lands, etc. etc.) if they didn't consider them threats

    Honestly, I feel like they might react so strongly not because they feel threatened, but because they consider indigenous groups so unthreatening they can dispel with the thin veneer of civility and apply the boot directly wherever possible.

    I'm not saying there's no hope, probably some reparations and an improvement of conditions is achievable with intersectional support, but decolonisation and proportionate reparations are never going to happen.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Honestly, I feel like they might react so strongly not because they feel threatened, but because they consider indigenous groups so unthreatening they can dispel with the thin veneer of civility and apply the boot directly wherever possible.

    The absolute mental gymnastics. State violence isn't wielded against non-threats. Would you say that the state didn't view Fred Hampton and the BPP as a threat? Or that isntreal doesn't view Gaza as a threat? Your words imply as much.

    I'm not claiming the state sees these threats as existential. But to claim there's no perceived threat at all is genocide denial.

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