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late edit: DISCLAIMER: The pictured map is not actually a representation of the territories before colonisation. It's a hypothetical map of what countries there might have been had the continent not been colonised, thus all the names and borders are fictional and have never existed.

For good actual maps, check out native-land.ca.

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[–] 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Not to say she gets to claim tribal membership, but her DNA test corroborated her family story. I never understood why she got so much shit for that.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Wait, it actually did? I thought the whole issue was that she "lied" about it to get special treatment in admissions for schooling.

    So these asshats going on about "Pocahontas warren" aren't even correct? They're just mocking how DNA transfer happens over generations? That would absolutely be on brand, mock someone for your own ignorance...

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Yes, though it didn’t “prove” ancestry to the high standards required for tribal membership, which requires linking one’s ancestry back through specific names using official genealogical records. She is estimated to be 1/32 Cherokee ancestry, exactly in line with her family stories, and the same as the current chief of one of the Cherokee nations. But, to be clear, we should also be respectful of the Cherokee nation’s political sovereignty in determining membership.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    It's up to the tribe if she can claim membership or not. Many tribes require that you can prove direct descendancy from someone on the final rolls of the Dawes act. No amount of native DNA will gain you access if you can't prove direct descendancy. Tribes with casinos and casino money are especially guarded about letting people in, sometimes excluding groups who meet the criteria and have proof. There was a group of about 50 people who sued a tribe to be admitted when I was younger. They wanted in, because getting in meant you were financially set for life. They had all the proof needed to get in, but still lost the case. It's hard to win in court against groups that have billions of dollars, especially if those groups make the rules.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Right, Warren claimed Cherokee ancestry, not tribal membership. A story was passed down in her family and the DNA test results are in line with that story. She learned about the culture, visited the lands, and even published a cringey cookbook. By all accounts, her beliefs about her heritage were sincere and plausible, if embarrassing.

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