▲ 217 ▼ Court rules automakers can record and intercept owner text messages (therecord.media) submitted 2 years ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to c/technology@lemmy.world 30 comments fedilink hide all child comments A Seattle-based appellate judge ruled that the practice does not meet the threshold for an illegal privacy violation under state law, handing a big win to automakers Honda, Toyota, Volkswagen and General Motors.
[+] Gregorech@lemmy.world -32 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are going to be very bored reading my texts. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGreatFox@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago (3 children) Ah, the classic "nothing to hide" response. How did that quote go again? "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime"? Even things you think may be innocuous can and will be used against you if given reason to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago Or alternatively privacy matters even for those with nothing to hide. Everyone knows how your kid was made, but you don’t want just anyone to see. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bashnagdul@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Innocence proves nothing permalink fedilink source parent [+] Gregorech@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have plenty to hide I just don't do those things texting on my phone. That section is very boring. Compartmentalize people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) The car maker will gather your mundane data, and all other services you, your friends, parents, parents friends and employer use will also do that. Then data will be deanonymized, traded, aggregated, traded around some more and aggregated again. Suddenly all actors have a complete profile on you and your social network, where they can very accurately infer many data points not explicitly collected. Good luck gdpring every company in existence. Your profile is eternal and growing. Also 20% of entities holding copies of your data also didn't care to keep your data safe and lost it to the criminal element. Somewhere on the dark net you can now buy access to a database where you can query for that shopping list you sent over your cars entertainment system and also your sexual preferences and social security number. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago All big companies do analytics now. They have files on virtually every consumer from buy huge volumes of data and deanonynizing it, and then they know just about everything about you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] endlessmeddler@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Honestly I can't tell if what you said is hypothetical. It seems closer to reality than fiction and that's a scary concept. How do we fight back? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You missed the articles about how shitty car tech privacy is? https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] endlessmeddler@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago that's fucking depressing. Thanks Mozilla. One of the few good companies out there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGreatFox@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago (3 children) Ah, the classic "nothing to hide" response. How did that quote go again? "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime"? Even things you think may be innocuous can and will be used against you if given reason to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago Or alternatively privacy matters even for those with nothing to hide. Everyone knows how your kid was made, but you don’t want just anyone to see. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bashnagdul@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Innocence proves nothing permalink fedilink source parent [+] Gregorech@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have plenty to hide I just don't do those things texting on my phone. That section is very boring. Compartmentalize people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) The car maker will gather your mundane data, and all other services you, your friends, parents, parents friends and employer use will also do that. Then data will be deanonymized, traded, aggregated, traded around some more and aggregated again. Suddenly all actors have a complete profile on you and your social network, where they can very accurately infer many data points not explicitly collected. Good luck gdpring every company in existence. Your profile is eternal and growing. Also 20% of entities holding copies of your data also didn't care to keep your data safe and lost it to the criminal element. Somewhere on the dark net you can now buy access to a database where you can query for that shopping list you sent over your cars entertainment system and also your sexual preferences and social security number. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago All big companies do analytics now. They have files on virtually every consumer from buy huge volumes of data and deanonynizing it, and then they know just about everything about you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] endlessmeddler@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Honestly I can't tell if what you said is hypothetical. It seems closer to reality than fiction and that's a scary concept. How do we fight back? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You missed the articles about how shitty car tech privacy is? https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] endlessmeddler@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago that's fucking depressing. Thanks Mozilla. One of the few good companies out there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago Or alternatively privacy matters even for those with nothing to hide. Everyone knows how your kid was made, but you don’t want just anyone to see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bashnagdul@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Innocence proves nothing permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Gregorech@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have plenty to hide I just don't do those things texting on my phone. That section is very boring. Compartmentalize people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) The car maker will gather your mundane data, and all other services you, your friends, parents, parents friends and employer use will also do that. Then data will be deanonymized, traded, aggregated, traded around some more and aggregated again. Suddenly all actors have a complete profile on you and your social network, where they can very accurately infer many data points not explicitly collected. Good luck gdpring every company in existence. Your profile is eternal and growing. Also 20% of entities holding copies of your data also didn't care to keep your data safe and lost it to the criminal element. Somewhere on the dark net you can now buy access to a database where you can query for that shopping list you sent over your cars entertainment system and also your sexual preferences and social security number. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago All big companies do analytics now. They have files on virtually every consumer from buy huge volumes of data and deanonynizing it, and then they know just about everything about you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] endlessmeddler@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Honestly I can't tell if what you said is hypothetical. It seems closer to reality than fiction and that's a scary concept. How do we fight back? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You missed the articles about how shitty car tech privacy is? https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] endlessmeddler@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago that's fucking depressing. Thanks Mozilla. One of the few good companies out there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) The car maker will gather your mundane data, and all other services you, your friends, parents, parents friends and employer use will also do that. Then data will be deanonymized, traded, aggregated, traded around some more and aggregated again. Suddenly all actors have a complete profile on you and your social network, where they can very accurately infer many data points not explicitly collected. Good luck gdpring every company in existence. Your profile is eternal and growing. Also 20% of entities holding copies of your data also didn't care to keep your data safe and lost it to the criminal element. Somewhere on the dark net you can now buy access to a database where you can query for that shopping list you sent over your cars entertainment system and also your sexual preferences and social security number. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago All big companies do analytics now. They have files on virtually every consumer from buy huge volumes of data and deanonynizing it, and then they know just about everything about you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] endlessmeddler@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Honestly I can't tell if what you said is hypothetical. It seems closer to reality than fiction and that's a scary concept. How do we fight back? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You missed the articles about how shitty car tech privacy is? https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] endlessmeddler@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago that's fucking depressing. Thanks Mozilla. One of the few good companies out there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago All big companies do analytics now. They have files on virtually every consumer from buy huge volumes of data and deanonynizing it, and then they know just about everything about you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] endlessmeddler@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Honestly I can't tell if what you said is hypothetical. It seems closer to reality than fiction and that's a scary concept. How do we fight back? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You missed the articles about how shitty car tech privacy is? https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] endlessmeddler@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago that's fucking depressing. Thanks Mozilla. One of the few good companies out there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) You missed the articles about how shitty car tech privacy is? https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] endlessmeddler@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago that's fucking depressing. Thanks Mozilla. One of the few good companies out there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] endlessmeddler@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago that's fucking depressing. Thanks Mozilla. One of the few good companies out there. permalink fedilink source parent