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[+] sudoshakes@reddthat.com 440 points 2 years ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 215 points 2 years ago (5 children) Elon Musk could have actually done something for humanity and build two of those instead of buying Twitter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Acters@lemmy.world 85 points 2 years ago (3 children) Dude literally owns a boring company, he could have ate the cost of digging the tunnel to specifications and still have more money than buying xitter permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Necromnomicon@lemmy.world 81 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea but his boring company isn't particularly useful for anything other than stymieing public transportation programs by acquiring contracts with cities and then doing nothing with them. Almost like he has an interest in selling more cars than expand public transit... allegedly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not even allegedly. I could be wrong but I thought he admitted publicly at one point that was the whole idea behind The Boring Co. It might have even been on Rogan. Anyone remember or have a clip? Jamie, pull that up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 16 points 2 years ago I think was a biographer, who wrote that the "hyperloop" project existed only to sabotage California's high speed train project. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yeah but where is the short term ego boost in that? He needs his dopamine NOW! permalink fedilink source parent [+] bonuspoints@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago And he's driven the value down below the price of one collider. He's lost an entire super collider! permalink fedilink source parent [–] pufferfischerpulver@feddit.de 31 points 2 years ago I disliked the truth of what you wrote so much, I initially downvoted you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Steve@startrek.website 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) You may not realize this, but the twitter money still exists. The former owners of twitter have it under their mattress right now, why don’t they build a supercollider? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fox@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago I agree, those dicks definitely could be doing better with their money and we should take it away from them for societally useful things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spectre@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean we all know this, but if he wants his "brand" to be "Mr. Nerd Shit" why tf does he miss such obvious Ws? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wahming@monyet.cc 5 points 2 years ago There's a reason he lost that brand years ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] arin@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (3 children) Upkeep might be expensive, but 22 billion is probably lower bound estimation, highly likely to 5x that at least permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 57 points 2 years ago (3 children) So, we'll need to kill fewer brown children to pay for it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is Switzerland you're talking about, they make money when people get killed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago* Understood, the world needs to kill more brown people, so we can afford rare particles . ***not my opinion permalink fedilink source parent [–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) That would be too hard, but we can just try and save some money on useless things and if people don't accept cutting benefits just raise the interest rates, all of them are underwater anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Found a future Federal Reserve banker! permalink fedilink source parent [–] ekky43@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* Man, that's just not in the budget. How am I supposed to scratch my need-to-kill-brown-kids itch without the taxpayer money we specifically set aside for this purpose? What kind of absurd ideas are you gonna come up with next? No more instigating strife in the middle east? Pah! Not on my watch! /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* Pff the UK is spending that on a 70 mile railway thats going to be slower than the one already there, already spent nearly 2x the projected FCC budget on just 6 miles of the fucking thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frezik@midwest.social 20 points 2 years ago Maybe the government should spend less on avocado toast. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) Fucking hell, we can't get a tramway for 10b CAD around here and a 12km tunnel under a river was going to cost half a 100km collider 😐 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is a train needs to transport humans, whereas the collider just needs to transport teeny tiny particles and keep a receipt of their arrival. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) The particle collider also doesn’t need to ensure the safety of the particles. Frankly, if it did it would be a rather shitty collider. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago I do love the image of scientists constructing little half buckyball helmets that they lovingly wrap around a lead atom before yeeting it to .9995% the speed of light permalink fedilink source parent [+] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SrTobi@feddit.de 16 points 2 years ago First rule in government spending: why build one when you can have two at twice the price? permalink fedilink source parent [–] uis@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't remember where I heard that science is super cheap, but I did not belive it first. Some time later I see that it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] petersr@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I guess everything is relative. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (5 children) The US has given 4 times that to Ukraine. That's 2/3rds the budget of NASA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's actually surprising that NASA only has 50% more budget than a single particle accelerator, given the huge number of cutting edge projects NASA is working on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Necromnomicon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Only about half a penny of every federal tax dollar goes to NASA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Source https://www.space.com/10849-nasa-budget-contribute.html permalink fedilink source parent [–] uis@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is one-time vs recurring payment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago That's why I compared it to 44x the initial jwst budget permalink fedilink source parent [–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Money spent fighting a morally justifiable war with Russia that we aren't actually having to fight is money well spent IMO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacedout@lemmy.ml -24 points 2 years ago (1 child) A million people dead. Money well spent. Thanks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Versus us not getting involved, there being a million people dead, the Ukraine occupied and Russia moving on to the next eastern European country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacedout@lemmy.ml -11 points 2 years ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] WraithGear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] vormadikter@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spacedout@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago Never heard of diplomacy? These US security experts had a nice idea back in May: We advocate for a meaningful and genuine commitment to diplomacy, specifically an immediate ceasefire and negotiations without any disqualifying or prohibitive preconditions. Deliberate provocations delivered the Russia-Ukraine War. In the same manner, deliberate diplomacy can end it. Seems the politicians are catching on to the same facts these days: NBC News, Nov 4th: Western officials broach with Kyiv issue of possible peace talks with Moscow permalink fedilink source parent [+] daellat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] daellat@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago They have mostly given stuff they weren't going to use anymore worth that amount when bought new. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psmgx@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago How many people has the moon killed? Cuz Russia has killed tens of thousands. They've lost on the order of 250k of their own guys, and probably inflicted roughly the same numbers on the AFU. The moon doesn't kill old ladies sitting in their apartment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago This initial budget estimate is 44x the 500M initial estimate of the jwst for comparison. Jwst eventually ballooned to 20B, but I'm guessing this would similarly balloon over time as well. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 215 points 2 years ago (5 children) Elon Musk could have actually done something for humanity and build two of those instead of buying Twitter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Acters@lemmy.world 85 points 2 years ago (3 children) Dude literally owns a boring company, he could have ate the cost of digging the tunnel to specifications and still have more money than buying xitter permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Necromnomicon@lemmy.world 81 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea but his boring company isn't particularly useful for anything other than stymieing public transportation programs by acquiring contracts with cities and then doing nothing with them. Almost like he has an interest in selling more cars than expand public transit... allegedly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not even allegedly. I could be wrong but I thought he admitted publicly at one point that was the whole idea behind The Boring Co. It might have even been on Rogan. Anyone remember or have a clip? Jamie, pull that up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 16 points 2 years ago I think was a biographer, who wrote that the "hyperloop" project existed only to sabotage California's high speed train project. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yeah but where is the short term ego boost in that? He needs his dopamine NOW! permalink fedilink source parent [+] bonuspoints@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago And he's driven the value down below the price of one collider. He's lost an entire super collider! permalink fedilink source parent [–] pufferfischerpulver@feddit.de 31 points 2 years ago I disliked the truth of what you wrote so much, I initially downvoted you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Steve@startrek.website 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) You may not realize this, but the twitter money still exists. The former owners of twitter have it under their mattress right now, why don’t they build a supercollider? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fox@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago I agree, those dicks definitely could be doing better with their money and we should take it away from them for societally useful things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spectre@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean we all know this, but if he wants his "brand" to be "Mr. Nerd Shit" why tf does he miss such obvious Ws? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wahming@monyet.cc 5 points 2 years ago There's a reason he lost that brand years ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Acters@lemmy.world 85 points 2 years ago (3 children) Dude literally owns a boring company, he could have ate the cost of digging the tunnel to specifications and still have more money than buying xitter permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Necromnomicon@lemmy.world 81 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea but his boring company isn't particularly useful for anything other than stymieing public transportation programs by acquiring contracts with cities and then doing nothing with them. Almost like he has an interest in selling more cars than expand public transit... allegedly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not even allegedly. I could be wrong but I thought he admitted publicly at one point that was the whole idea behind The Boring Co. It might have even been on Rogan. Anyone remember or have a clip? Jamie, pull that up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 16 points 2 years ago I think was a biographer, who wrote that the "hyperloop" project existed only to sabotage California's high speed train project. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yeah but where is the short term ego boost in that? He needs his dopamine NOW! permalink fedilink source parent [+] bonuspoints@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Necromnomicon@lemmy.world 81 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea but his boring company isn't particularly useful for anything other than stymieing public transportation programs by acquiring contracts with cities and then doing nothing with them. Almost like he has an interest in selling more cars than expand public transit... allegedly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not even allegedly. I could be wrong but I thought he admitted publicly at one point that was the whole idea behind The Boring Co. It might have even been on Rogan. Anyone remember or have a clip? Jamie, pull that up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 16 points 2 years ago I think was a biographer, who wrote that the "hyperloop" project existed only to sabotage California's high speed train project. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not even allegedly. I could be wrong but I thought he admitted publicly at one point that was the whole idea behind The Boring Co. It might have even been on Rogan. Anyone remember or have a clip? Jamie, pull that up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 16 points 2 years ago I think was a biographer, who wrote that the "hyperloop" project existed only to sabotage California's high speed train project. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 16 points 2 years ago I think was a biographer, who wrote that the "hyperloop" project existed only to sabotage California's high speed train project. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yeah but where is the short term ego boost in that? He needs his dopamine NOW! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago And he's driven the value down below the price of one collider. He's lost an entire super collider! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pufferfischerpulver@feddit.de 31 points 2 years ago I disliked the truth of what you wrote so much, I initially downvoted you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@startrek.website 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) You may not realize this, but the twitter money still exists. The former owners of twitter have it under their mattress right now, why don’t they build a supercollider? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fox@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago I agree, those dicks definitely could be doing better with their money and we should take it away from them for societally useful things. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fox@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago I agree, those dicks definitely could be doing better with their money and we should take it away from them for societally useful things. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spectre@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean we all know this, but if he wants his "brand" to be "Mr. Nerd Shit" why tf does he miss such obvious Ws? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wahming@monyet.cc 5 points 2 years ago There's a reason he lost that brand years ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wahming@monyet.cc 5 points 2 years ago There's a reason he lost that brand years ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arin@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (3 children) Upkeep might be expensive, but 22 billion is probably lower bound estimation, highly likely to 5x that at least permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 57 points 2 years ago (3 children) So, we'll need to kill fewer brown children to pay for it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is Switzerland you're talking about, they make money when people get killed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago* Understood, the world needs to kill more brown people, so we can afford rare particles . ***not my opinion permalink fedilink source parent [–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) That would be too hard, but we can just try and save some money on useless things and if people don't accept cutting benefits just raise the interest rates, all of them are underwater anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Found a future Federal Reserve banker! permalink fedilink source parent [–] ekky43@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* Man, that's just not in the budget. How am I supposed to scratch my need-to-kill-brown-kids itch without the taxpayer money we specifically set aside for this purpose? What kind of absurd ideas are you gonna come up with next? No more instigating strife in the middle east? Pah! Not on my watch! /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* Pff the UK is spending that on a 70 mile railway thats going to be slower than the one already there, already spent nearly 2x the projected FCC budget on just 6 miles of the fucking thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frezik@midwest.social 20 points 2 years ago Maybe the government should spend less on avocado toast. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 57 points 2 years ago (3 children) So, we'll need to kill fewer brown children to pay for it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is Switzerland you're talking about, they make money when people get killed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago* Understood, the world needs to kill more brown people, so we can afford rare particles . ***not my opinion permalink fedilink source parent [–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) That would be too hard, but we can just try and save some money on useless things and if people don't accept cutting benefits just raise the interest rates, all of them are underwater anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Found a future Federal Reserve banker! permalink fedilink source parent [–] ekky43@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* Man, that's just not in the budget. How am I supposed to scratch my need-to-kill-brown-kids itch without the taxpayer money we specifically set aside for this purpose? What kind of absurd ideas are you gonna come up with next? No more instigating strife in the middle east? Pah! Not on my watch! /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is Switzerland you're talking about, they make money when people get killed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago* Understood, the world needs to kill more brown people, so we can afford rare particles . ***not my opinion permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago* Understood, the world needs to kill more brown people, so we can afford rare particles . ***not my opinion permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) That would be too hard, but we can just try and save some money on useless things and if people don't accept cutting benefits just raise the interest rates, all of them are underwater anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Found a future Federal Reserve banker! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago Found a future Federal Reserve banker! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ekky43@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* Man, that's just not in the budget. How am I supposed to scratch my need-to-kill-brown-kids itch without the taxpayer money we specifically set aside for this purpose? What kind of absurd ideas are you gonna come up with next? No more instigating strife in the middle east? Pah! Not on my watch! /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* Pff the UK is spending that on a 70 mile railway thats going to be slower than the one already there, already spent nearly 2x the projected FCC budget on just 6 miles of the fucking thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@midwest.social 20 points 2 years ago Maybe the government should spend less on avocado toast. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) Fucking hell, we can't get a tramway for 10b CAD around here and a 12km tunnel under a river was going to cost half a 100km collider 😐 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is a train needs to transport humans, whereas the collider just needs to transport teeny tiny particles and keep a receipt of their arrival. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) The particle collider also doesn’t need to ensure the safety of the particles. Frankly, if it did it would be a rather shitty collider. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago I do love the image of scientists constructing little half buckyball helmets that they lovingly wrap around a lead atom before yeeting it to .9995% the speed of light permalink fedilink source parent [+] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) The problem is a train needs to transport humans, whereas the collider just needs to transport teeny tiny particles and keep a receipt of their arrival. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) The particle collider also doesn’t need to ensure the safety of the particles. Frankly, if it did it would be a rather shitty collider. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago I do love the image of scientists constructing little half buckyball helmets that they lovingly wrap around a lead atom before yeeting it to .9995% the speed of light permalink fedilink source parent [+] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) The particle collider also doesn’t need to ensure the safety of the particles. Frankly, if it did it would be a rather shitty collider. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago I do love the image of scientists constructing little half buckyball helmets that they lovingly wrap around a lead atom before yeeting it to .9995% the speed of light permalink fedilink source parent [+] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago I do love the image of scientists constructing little half buckyball helmets that they lovingly wrap around a lead atom before yeeting it to .9995% the speed of light permalink fedilink source parent
[+] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SrTobi@feddit.de 16 points 2 years ago First rule in government spending: why build one when you can have two at twice the price? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] uis@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't remember where I heard that science is super cheap, but I did not belive it first. Some time later I see that it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] petersr@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I guess everything is relative. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] petersr@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I guess everything is relative. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (5 children) The US has given 4 times that to Ukraine. That's 2/3rds the budget of NASA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's actually surprising that NASA only has 50% more budget than a single particle accelerator, given the huge number of cutting edge projects NASA is working on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Necromnomicon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Only about half a penny of every federal tax dollar goes to NASA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Source https://www.space.com/10849-nasa-budget-contribute.html permalink fedilink source parent [–] uis@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is one-time vs recurring payment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago That's why I compared it to 44x the initial jwst budget permalink fedilink source parent [–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Money spent fighting a morally justifiable war with Russia that we aren't actually having to fight is money well spent IMO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacedout@lemmy.ml -24 points 2 years ago (1 child) A million people dead. Money well spent. Thanks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Versus us not getting involved, there being a million people dead, the Ukraine occupied and Russia moving on to the next eastern European country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacedout@lemmy.ml -11 points 2 years ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] WraithGear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] vormadikter@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spacedout@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago Never heard of diplomacy? These US security experts had a nice idea back in May: We advocate for a meaningful and genuine commitment to diplomacy, specifically an immediate ceasefire and negotiations without any disqualifying or prohibitive preconditions. Deliberate provocations delivered the Russia-Ukraine War. In the same manner, deliberate diplomacy can end it. Seems the politicians are catching on to the same facts these days: NBC News, Nov 4th: Western officials broach with Kyiv issue of possible peace talks with Moscow permalink fedilink source parent [+] daellat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] daellat@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago They have mostly given stuff they weren't going to use anymore worth that amount when bought new. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psmgx@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago How many people has the moon killed? Cuz Russia has killed tens of thousands. They've lost on the order of 250k of their own guys, and probably inflicted roughly the same numbers on the AFU. The moon doesn't kill old ladies sitting in their apartment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago This initial budget estimate is 44x the 500M initial estimate of the jwst for comparison. Jwst eventually ballooned to 20B, but I'm guessing this would similarly balloon over time as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's actually surprising that NASA only has 50% more budget than a single particle accelerator, given the huge number of cutting edge projects NASA is working on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Necromnomicon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Only about half a penny of every federal tax dollar goes to NASA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Source https://www.space.com/10849-nasa-budget-contribute.html permalink fedilink source parent [–] uis@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is one-time vs recurring payment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago That's why I compared it to 44x the initial jwst budget permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Necromnomicon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Only about half a penny of every federal tax dollar goes to NASA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Source https://www.space.com/10849-nasa-budget-contribute.html permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Source https://www.space.com/10849-nasa-budget-contribute.html permalink fedilink source parent
[–] uis@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is one-time vs recurring payment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago That's why I compared it to 44x the initial jwst budget permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago That's why I compared it to 44x the initial jwst budget permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) Money spent fighting a morally justifiable war with Russia that we aren't actually having to fight is money well spent IMO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacedout@lemmy.ml -24 points 2 years ago (1 child) A million people dead. Money well spent. Thanks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Versus us not getting involved, there being a million people dead, the Ukraine occupied and Russia moving on to the next eastern European country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacedout@lemmy.ml -11 points 2 years ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] WraithGear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] vormadikter@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spacedout@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago Never heard of diplomacy? These US security experts had a nice idea back in May: We advocate for a meaningful and genuine commitment to diplomacy, specifically an immediate ceasefire and negotiations without any disqualifying or prohibitive preconditions. Deliberate provocations delivered the Russia-Ukraine War. In the same manner, deliberate diplomacy can end it. Seems the politicians are catching on to the same facts these days: NBC News, Nov 4th: Western officials broach with Kyiv issue of possible peace talks with Moscow permalink fedilink source parent [+] daellat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] spacedout@lemmy.ml -24 points 2 years ago (1 child) A million people dead. Money well spent. Thanks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Versus us not getting involved, there being a million people dead, the Ukraine occupied and Russia moving on to the next eastern European country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacedout@lemmy.ml -11 points 2 years ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] WraithGear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] vormadikter@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spacedout@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago Never heard of diplomacy? These US security experts had a nice idea back in May: We advocate for a meaningful and genuine commitment to diplomacy, specifically an immediate ceasefire and negotiations without any disqualifying or prohibitive preconditions. Deliberate provocations delivered the Russia-Ukraine War. In the same manner, deliberate diplomacy can end it. Seems the politicians are catching on to the same facts these days: NBC News, Nov 4th: Western officials broach with Kyiv issue of possible peace talks with Moscow permalink fedilink source parent [+] daellat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) Versus us not getting involved, there being a million people dead, the Ukraine occupied and Russia moving on to the next eastern European country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacedout@lemmy.ml -11 points 2 years ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] WraithGear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] vormadikter@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spacedout@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago Never heard of diplomacy? These US security experts had a nice idea back in May: We advocate for a meaningful and genuine commitment to diplomacy, specifically an immediate ceasefire and negotiations without any disqualifying or prohibitive preconditions. Deliberate provocations delivered the Russia-Ukraine War. In the same manner, deliberate diplomacy can end it. Seems the politicians are catching on to the same facts these days: NBC News, Nov 4th: Western officials broach with Kyiv issue of possible peace talks with Moscow permalink fedilink source parent [+] daellat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] spacedout@lemmy.ml -11 points 2 years ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] WraithGear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] vormadikter@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spacedout@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago Never heard of diplomacy? These US security experts had a nice idea back in May: We advocate for a meaningful and genuine commitment to diplomacy, specifically an immediate ceasefire and negotiations without any disqualifying or prohibitive preconditions. Deliberate provocations delivered the Russia-Ukraine War. In the same manner, deliberate diplomacy can end it. Seems the politicians are catching on to the same facts these days: NBC News, Nov 4th: Western officials broach with Kyiv issue of possible peace talks with Moscow permalink fedilink source parent [+] daellat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [+] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] vormadikter@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spacedout@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago Never heard of diplomacy? These US security experts had a nice idea back in May: We advocate for a meaningful and genuine commitment to diplomacy, specifically an immediate ceasefire and negotiations without any disqualifying or prohibitive preconditions. Deliberate provocations delivered the Russia-Ukraine War. In the same manner, deliberate diplomacy can end it. Seems the politicians are catching on to the same facts these days: NBC News, Nov 4th: Western officials broach with Kyiv issue of possible peace talks with Moscow permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spacedout@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago Never heard of diplomacy? These US security experts had a nice idea back in May: We advocate for a meaningful and genuine commitment to diplomacy, specifically an immediate ceasefire and negotiations without any disqualifying or prohibitive preconditions. Deliberate provocations delivered the Russia-Ukraine War. In the same manner, deliberate diplomacy can end it. Seems the politicians are catching on to the same facts these days: NBC News, Nov 4th: Western officials broach with Kyiv issue of possible peace talks with Moscow permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daellat@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago They have mostly given stuff they weren't going to use anymore worth that amount when bought new. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago How many people has the moon killed? Cuz Russia has killed tens of thousands. They've lost on the order of 250k of their own guys, and probably inflicted roughly the same numbers on the AFU. The moon doesn't kill old ladies sitting in their apartment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago This initial budget estimate is 44x the 500M initial estimate of the jwst for comparison. Jwst eventually ballooned to 20B, but I'm guessing this would similarly balloon over time as well. permalink fedilink source parent