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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

In the usa the poor don’t really have anywhere to charge these cars even if they were cheap enough to afford.

You mean to tell me "the poor" don't have access to electricity? How poor are we talking exactly? Because I'm thinking enough money to spend, say, $30k on a brand new car... which is still pretty well off.

I mean sure, if you live in a cheap inner city apartment, then you might not have a garage to park/charge in. But I bet a lot of people in that situation have access to public transit anyway - they're not really the target market for cars in general.

It is impossible to compete with a less than five minute fill up for 300+ miles range.

Most people charge their EV overnight. It'd be even better to charge during the day though, when electricity (can be) cheaper thanks to solar power.

Not to mention that reports place charging on public charges to be more costly than gas.

Yeah you're going to have to share a source for that. Sounds hard to believe.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the UK, public fast chargers are mostly around the 80p/kwh Mark. With a decently light foot and getting 4 miles per kwh, that's 20p a mile. With gas at £1.55 a litre, and a 60mpg (UK) hybrid, that's about 12p a mile.

Home charging an ev on an appropriate tariff costs about 7p/kwh, or about 1.75p per mile.

Public charging is fucking expensive.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Very few public chargers are 80p a kwh, its about half that: https://pod-point.com/guides/driver/cost-of-charging-electric-car

Its normally only the very fastest chargers that are around 80p, but then there are alternative options that are cheaper if you want ultra high speed and not get robbed blind, such as Tesla that is almost half what Instavolt charge.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You realize that parking garages do not allow you to plug your car into random sockets and most don't have sockets anywhere near the cars

Mist people who own a home or are Lucky enough to love some where that has chargers they can use you mean.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ev-charging-cost-versus-gas-car-truck-suv-2023-7

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

There was a lot of stuff in that comment that was out of touch with what it's like to have not or have little.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People who are barely making ends meet don’t usually buy new cars. They buy used. You can get something tolerable for a hell of a lot less than 30k.

Plus, if you’re poor, there’s a good chance you live in a shitty (maybe unsafe) neighborhood. You might not have a driveway, never mind a garage. If you leave your car to charge overnight, you have to worry about some asshole unplugging it, or even taking/vandalizing the extension cord.