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Google could kill YouTube Vanced for good (www.androidpolice.com)

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Google could kill YouTube Vanced for good::The company is exploring an integrity API that could lock down WebViews with DRM

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago* (15 children)

I don't understand this toxic level of optimism found on this platform. if they do client integrity checks, nobody will be able to use an ad blocker. you will have to use an approved YouTube client. it will result in higher ad revenue to Google.

all of these folks who are using revanced will watch annoying ads repeating a thousand times over and the content of the ad will be stuck in their brains exactly as intended. the companies that pay for the ads don't care if you think you are immune to propaganda. they want you to watch.

what part of this is imaginary?

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[–] bstix@feddit.dk 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children)

companies that pay for the ads don't care if you think you are immune to propaganda. they want you to watch.

They don't pay for ads just to waste my time. They buy ads to sell products.

Forced advertising does not work on the kind of people who already do everything they can not to watch ads.

if you think you are immune

I'm literally not watching my phone if YouTube or other stream goes into ad mode. I do not see the ad.

The imaginary part is that Google gets paid just as much for showing ads that don't work as they do for showing ads that do work.

Forced advertising is good for Google. It's not good for the users nor the companies who pay Google.

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[+] jol@discuss.tchncs.de -10 points 2 years ago (12 children)

That's not true. Do you think, say, coca cola cares if you click on ads? Not all ads are looking for clicks. Some just want to get impressions.

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[–] bstix@feddit.dk 21 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Yes it is true. They don't make an impression when I don't see it.

Call me old fashioned, but I have hands. I physically put my phone away because I do not want to watch the screen on my phone when the screen is showing an ad instead of showing what I wanted to see.

Companies are paying Google to show me ads that I don't see.

Coca Cola's brand recognition does not come from YouTube ads. It comes from signs in the real world, visual merchandising in stores and product placement in shows.

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[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Absolutely. There are petrol pumps that play fucking ads. What do I do? Enter car. That’s horrifying to me.

I haven’t had YouTube ads for a long time thanks to Firefox focus but if I did? I’d probably abandon the platform. Otherwise I’d just put my phone upside down for as long as the ad might be.

You’re entirely correct. I refuse to ads. I wish billboards were illegal here. Ads are a fuck.

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[+] HKayn@dormi.zone -6 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Ads on the internet are a consequence of people not wanting to pay for internet services.

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[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (6 children)

This is absolutely not true as Steam and other niche streaming sites have proven. When you make it easier to buy what you're selling, rather than doing everything in your power to nickel and dime consumers to pad your stock price, people are fine paying for those services and you don't need ads.

Historically speaking, your statement is false, and there are multiple examples to prove it.

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[–] HKayn@dormi.zone -3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Then what's difficult about paying for YouTube Premium?

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[–] jasep@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

It's the enshitification of it all. They hike prices while removing features year after year. Corporate greed is never enough.

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[–] sock@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

they literally raise the price every other week do you think that's sustainable to keep paying for (which is saying yes please take more money each time you pay)

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[–] HKayn@dormi.zone -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No, they do not "literally raise the price every other week".

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[–] sock@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

sorry i hyperbolized

once a month

my parents use it and I get the emails.

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[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 0 points 2 years ago*

So you're genuinely saying that you get emails about distinct price increases for YouTube Premium once a month?

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[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago

Ads on the internet are fucking spyware, no thanks

I’ll take my PiHole and ublock and wipr and never see them again thanks

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[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago

This is only true for large, legacy companies like Coca Cola though. This doesn't work for startups shilling shitty headphones, flashlights, VPNs, mobile games, etc because you're unlikely to randomly come across their product when walking around the grocery store for example.

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago*

The majority of ads are toxic on a medical need level for me. I’d sooner build an ai to prewatch and live record videos. Cutting out the cursed segment.’

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