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[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Israel would probably be fine with Egypt but there's not much love left between Egyptians and Palestinians, and Egypt has its own shit to deal with in more than one way. The US is problematic for the same kind of reason: Palestinian distrust.

What could actually work is Germany, or more generally speaking a EU contingent under German command: Europe provides just over 50% of the total aid to Palestine and Palestinians know that, 20% from Arab countries, 11% from the US. (Providing aid to Palestinians is our favourite way to tell Israel's right wing to fucking cut it out).

All that hinges on Netanyahu and his Kahanites getting ousted, though, there can't be anything benefitting a peace process while von Papen and his fascists are in power as their power depends on conflict. Poll-wise it's looking good.

[-] hanekam@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

What could actually work is Germany, or more generally speaking a EU contingent under German command

Why would Germany and the EU ever agree to this? What they get is an impossible mission in a deeply troubled area and all the blame for every ill that will ever befall it in the future.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago

Other countries might want to keep out of it but peace in the near east is right there at the very top of German national interest. As in: The safety of Israel is most easily achieved if you keep the IDF out of Gaza and the West Bank.

[-] K4mpfie@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

European Forces occupying the middle east gives of hard imperialistic taste. Also seeing how the EU and Germany are so close to the US militarily this could just be seen again as a western power struggle where US proxies are put in place. No what is needed is a country that is non aligned to neither the west nor the middle east.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

It's like 400km from the nearest EU state to Gaza, running a ferry line from Limassol not just to Ashod but also Gaza would be trivial, the whole of the EU is a post-imperial project, tons of Palestinians live in the EU and will be more than willing to help building up the region and you want to bring in, who, the Chinese?

US proxies

Who, the Philippines? Europe isn't a proxy of the US.

As to "neutrality": Europe has way better relations with the Arab and Muslim world than the US, they know where we stand on issues such as settlements. You could just as well see it as a wedge to get the US out of the region. Remember when Trump proposed making Jerusalem the capital of Israel?

[-] Novman@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago

German and Jews , again? Noooo

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