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[–] 24 points 2 years ago (24 children)

It's so eerily flat there, it's unsettling. I don't understand how people can stand it.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I grew up in a very flat part of England, flatness to me is the default and I get genuinely excited by hills.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    I get excited by hills but it's because they remind me of home. Out of my window was a deep valley with a huge hill and just watching the seasons pass each year was a joy. The spring lambing season when the sheep covered the hills to the winter with snow covering them and you'd know it was time to fetch the sledge!

    Moved to Lincolnshire in my mid teens and it bored the absolute fuck out of me. Fields of rapeseed in all directions as far as the eye could see. Relentless wind that had no hills to block it so it never changed direction.

    I found it easier biking with a BMX on hills than I did using a mountain bike in windy flat conditions.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    As someone who grew up somewhere super flat it really doesn't get to you because it's all you've ever known. However, now that I live somewhere with hills it drives me crazy when I visit home.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The Netherlands doesn't have good bicycle infrastructure because of the fact that the country is relatively flat - they have it because they prioritized safe streets in the 70s following the stop de kindermoord-campaign.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Accidents happen in the Netherlands just like anywhere else. I’m half Dutch and my grandfather was hit by a car and killed there.

    “The bicycle was the most dangerous mode of transportation in 2022, with a total of 291 fatalities. The car came in second place, with 225 victims. By comparison, that year 57 pedestrians and 20 truck drivers were also killed in traffic accidents in the Netherlands.”

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The numbers went up since the mass adoption of electric bikes. This caused especially elderly people to drive twice as fast as they could before, with heavier bikes they can't control as well and they generally don't wear helmets.

    The next big problem are young people doing what young people do but now with electric assistance

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I didn’t even think about that, but it makes sense why the numbers seem much higher now. My grandfather (Opa) was killed in the early 90s… somewhere around Eindhoven.. can’t remember exactly

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