Qualcomm brings receipts: Snapdragon X Elite gets benchmarked, completely dunks on Apple’s M2 processor::Qualcomm made big claims with its Snapdragon X Elite platform and Oryon CPU, but the company proved it to the press last week with a special benchmarking session where we could witness just how powerf

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[–] 22 points 2 years ago (6 children)

When will it actually release and by that point how far away is the M3?

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Also important, will it be available and affordable. I don't much care about arm laptops if they cost an arm (heh) and a leg to buy and then a couple fingers to import into the mythical and exotic land of not-US.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Considering a severe lack of software support on ARM they better have a massive cost incentive

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    As per usual, Linux is fine with ARM.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Most things are fine on arm these days. Don’t know what this person is on about

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Windows is not fine with ARM, which can be a turnoff for some.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I bet it will be fine with arm fairly quickly now that these chips are on the horizon.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I doubt it. Many windows applications still are 32 bit only today. Visual studio only got 64 bit support in 2022. Windows has a long history of backwards compatibility and I would expect to be depending on software compatibility layers for a decade or more, even for some Microsoft products.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    The 20 reference laptops doing the benchmarking in this article were running on windows....

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Most things are fine on arm these days

    MacOS? Yes. Linux? Sure. Android? Obviously. Windows? Not a chance!

    And seeing this is designed for laptops, your options will be either Linux or Windows. The comment is on point.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The benchmarks from this article are running on Windows 11 Arm...

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Oh don't get me wrong, it definitely runs!

    But have you tried using it as a daily driver? Most things will break. I discovered this the hard way by installing it in a Raspberry Pi

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Was it just because it was arm, or because it was a raspberry pi and had too little of everything else windows likes to hog up? There's several major laptop manufacturers that are planning to sell laptops with these. I doubt that would be the case if they were all functionally broken to the consumer.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Caveat for all platforms running wine applications. So Linux is fine, except when running windows applications.

    Well, mostly, there do exist binary only Linux applications too. Business applications and also some games with native Linux support.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I’d imagine most open source software will just be perfectly fine on ARM on Linux… but I do wonder a little bit about the occasional x86 binary blob we run. They’re generally pretty rare in Linux land… but Steam games are probably not going to have a great time. I’ve used binfmt_misc to run ARM binaries on x86 transparently before using qemu, and it works perfectly fine… but it’s dog slow.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Linux works well but sadly most people don't use Linux

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Android is Linux. Linux is the most popular OS in the world.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I was specifically referring to desktop Linux, most people wouldn't be interested in a laptop running android.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Yet Chromebooks have been a major element for the past 5 years, with more units sold than Apple. I know it's not technically GNU/Linux. But there's still a Linux core underneath required to run Chrome OS.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The answer is in the article...

    It is worth noting that by the time Qualcomm’s Snapdragon X Elite hits store shelves, Apple’s M3 line of CPUs (which are expected to be announced this week) and Intel’s next-gen Meteor Lake laptops processors with its beefy NPU and GPU, will be the new competition.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They'll have to compete in price to have any chance

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    That really depends on the TDP of the Intel and AMD chips. Both have been progressively pumping more and more juice into their silicon lately in an attempt to be the "fastest".

    If Qualcomm is within spitting distance at a much lower TDP then this might actually be the beginning of the end for x86.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I guess we'll have to wait for price, benchmarks, and battery life

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