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“I Am Done Voting for the Lesser of Two Evils. I Will Not Vote for Joe Biden in 2024.” (inthesetimes.com)
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Former democratic party activists are organizing Muslims and Arab-Americans in Swing states to vote against Biden with the demand that he support a ceasefire in Gaza.

I'll allow them a little bit of electoralism this time.

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[–] 3 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

Holy shit that’s insane.

Go look at the graphs of the electorate before and after 2008. It is not wildly different.

A majority of people did not vote because of race.

You’re drawing very sweeping conclusions from one and a half data points.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Go look at the graphs of the electorate before and after 2008. It is not wildly different.

    lmao yeah that just strengthens my point, otherwise if ideological commitments swayed voters then YOU have to explain why white Obama voters didn't punish him for betraying those ideological commitments in his first term, it's almost like demographics and cultural signifiers were more important than concrete ideology, and the need for cultural identification among white liberals only intensified between 2008 and 2012 after the mostly cultural conservative backlash against Obama and HIS Democratic Party, a backlash that surprise surprise found its expression in racial politics

    A majority of people did not vote because of race.

    What a profound argument, I've now changed my mind

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    it's almost like demographics and cultural signifiers were more important than concrete ideology

    Great point.

    Since most in the US have no concrete ideology, there are only demographics and cultural signifiers. Politcal Parties are just lifestyle brands

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