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How to say "peace" in European languages (o.mastodon.au)
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[–] 35 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Wait, hold on, a fairly accurate map instead of just countries?

Who's the linguistics nerd that wanted to make a point about peace and empathy and the absolutely tragic loss of human life, but couldn't resisit also making a little bit of a point about language diversity? Whoever you are, I see you.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    It's a lot better than most such maps, but still, there's way too many languages missing in my opinion :)

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I take little bit of issue having south part of Finland having swedish there.

    Edit: ok, the projection is bit funky here, that is not southern Finland (Uusimaa), but south west Finland (Varsinais-Suomi) which is conquered by Swedish Finns

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    These often way overrepresent minority language in my experience

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    As opposed to? I mean, yeah, a lot of the places marked here are bilingual and share a language with the surrounding environment, but it's not like Spanish, Romanian or English aren't captured here.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

    Well showing area that has only minority of some speakers as the colour of that language is quite misleading. Should be shaded or something

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (6 children)

    It depends. I think if both languages are exclusive to that area then yeah, flag it. If one is a larger language and the other a minority language exclusive to a region is fine to only show the minority one. Context solves the issue just fine.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (5 children)

    You don't know from context what the actual language situation there is with that method. For informative maps that'd be bad. That's why shading makes more sense.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    If your map is about where every language is spoken, then you shade where every language is spoken.

    If your map is about how a word is said on different languages, then you place words for unique languages, context takes care of bilingual areas.

    It seems pretty obvious, really.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    And what's wrong from a more correct representation that also shows the words, as in, shading?

    To me that seems obvious. You don't mislead but also get the information through.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Well, because you'd have to put two words in very tiny spaces of the map. Repeating "peace" in Wales seems superfluous, since England is right there. You'll notice you don't get béke rewritten in Transilvania, either.

    It just seems like a weird hangup.

    Anyway, moving on here. We've derailed the kind, warm, little dorky message of this thread enough.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    I'm not sure why you'd have to repeat the word.

    It just seems like a weird hangup.

    It's just an unfortunate and misleading trend. But if you've ever been to MapPorn on Reddit, then yeah it's not the most egregious example of those hah.

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